At least Wilder didn't spit out his mouthpiece and quit

This thread isn't going the way Tinman wanted.

 

He knows the rule, no spitting in public due to Corona virus

 

I really do not understand the hate here. I have never liked Wilder and posted so. Which does not change the fact that he showed heart and did not quit himself, despite being hopelessly outmatched and beaten badly. C'mon folks, let's give credit, where credit's due.

 

See post #76.

 

No he just curled up in the corner and submitted to the inevitable!

Then blamed the loss on his cosplay outfit

 

Wow delusional - next your gonna say wilder would stop a prime Mike Tyson

 

What?? wilder was overrated, but Fury is prob one of most overrated boxers ever . What I said is that third fight would be much more competitive.
fury is no prime tyson.

 

No fury is the big white jimmy young !!!!

 

No, I don't think I will.

 

The differences are one guy lost to the undefeated, 6'9, 270-pound, and likely first-ballot Hall of Fame World Heavyweight Champion ... and the other lost to a late sub named Andy Ruiz, who never beat anyone before and likely won't beat anyone again.

Seriously, you guys are high.

It's like trying to compare Foreman losing by KO to an all-time great in Ali and Tyson losing to Buster Douglas (who Andy Ruiz was compared to by EVERYONE - including by Andy Ruiz himself - after the fight).

Wilder got beat up by an all-timer. The biggest heavyweight champion in history. A man who has won ALL the heavyweight belts inside the ring and never lost any of them inside the ring. If you're going to lose to someone, at least it was to a great fighter like Fury.

Wilder will try to turn the tables this summer. But it took Tyson Fury, a guy destined for the Hall of Fame, to beat Wilder.

Joshua was going down like Bruce Seldon from punches that were barely grazing him, and spitting out his mouthpiece and trying to kill time ... against late sub ANDY freaking RUIZ.

THAT'S the difference.

So, everyone, enjoy the frothing that's been going on for like 15 pages now.

Keep in mind though that just because Fury could beat Wilder doesn't mean any of the other clowns at heavyweight can. No one else in the division is remotely like Fury.

Whereas everyone knows a late sub can take Joshua totally apart.

 

We'll never know that because he never fought any of them and he probably never will. If he's got any brains left after Fury beat them out of him, he's probably thinking about retirement

Full credit to Fury for beating him but it didn't take a Fury to beat Deontay Wilder. Wilder would have been beaten by any remotely credible elite level opposition if he'd faced any. His management team were very skilled at cherrypicking his opponents for the most part. That's why he avoided AJ. A champion, with most of the belts, in peak fitness and who can hit. Wilder could see him coming from a mile away. What he didn't see coming was that he wouldn't be able to beat Fury, who just rolled off the sofa after a three year booze and cocaine bender.

 

Blah blah blah.

Fury is an all-time great. Andy Ruiz isn't. That's the difference.

 

We can't definitively say AJ quit, but after the last KD the body language was different than the previous three. For the first three KDs, Joshua offered up a guard to the ref when he was asked if he wanted to box on, and did so with gumshield in mouth and away from the ropes, ready to re-engage.

After the 4th KD he spat the gumshield, got up and walked away from the ref and stood in the corner with his arms resting on the ropes. Waiting for the ref to replace the gumshield does not explain any of this, as it is the boxer's responsibility to indicate he wants to box on when he is asked. He didn't do that in a way the ref would have been able to identify as a clear 'Yes, I want to fight on'.

In fact, the opposite. Joshua acted very differently than he had for the first three KDs. He acted very differently from how he responded to the KD vs Wlad.

Refs talk a lot about reading body language. After KD no4 it changed drastically.

Maybe the fairest summary is: he didn't quit - I think he would have eventually walked out to re-engage - but he choose to give the ref reasons to waive it off....

 

Firstly it was you Wilderettes that kept saying Wilder is a potential ATG and from what we've seen - him face one pretty much prime world class fighter, he got an absolute paddling. Had he fought more top tier guys he'd never have got to where he was.