Who did Usyk beat to be considered so great?

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  1. PistonHondai

    PistonHondai Active Member Full Member

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    Aydamn Dillian Da Dissappointment Full Member

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    At HW, nobody... but because he is a cruiserweight king... it's assumed he'll be the same at HW

    Ergo by default he will beat every HW... just a formality having to watch him do it (the boring part)

    At least according to many others... not me
     
  3. Charlie Stewart

    Charlie Stewart Most Merciful Full Member

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    ‘Yes, it was a very impressive victory but not as good as Pacquiao over Thurman for the last spot. ‘Heavyweights are just not as talented as other divisions, so it’s harder for someone, even as talented as Fury, to accumulate credit.'

    there u have it, p4p is buII****
     
  4. The Real Lance

    The Real Lance Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    The fuss fans make over silly fictional P4P lists never gets old....
     
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    JackSilver Boxing Addict Full Member

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    P4p was created to highlight and champion the smaller fighters outside of the heavyweights because everyone knows that in reality the best fighter is the one that can beat every other fighter in the ring and that has always being heavyweights.
     
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    Loudon Loyal Member Full Member

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    herbzg Euro-Level Athlete Full Member

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    He beat a few stiff Eurobots at cruiser weight, and unified the paper belts in the process. Oh and he beat 40 year old Chazz Witherspoon, getting very roughed up in the process. ATG

    Next up on his road to greatness.... 36 year old Derek Chisora. Personally I don’t think he will amount to much at heavyweight , but others disagree.
     
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    Flash24 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    No one at cruiserweight, ditto for Heavyweight. Another fighter from the last decade that havent fought anyone close to special, but media and fan boys have made him an ATG. Similar to the Joshua and Wilder madness.
     
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    Lazar Boxing Addict Full Member

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    P4P concept is not that hard to understand. Don’t play stupid.
     
  10. george14

    george14 Member Full Member

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    Is this a joke?

    Usyk cleaned out arguably the best division in boxing. He became undisputed champ. Take a look at the names he beat and he did it in their country....risking a BS decision.

    Glowacki - who recently beat Huck and Cunningham
    Mchunu - who is now near the top of the division
    Hunter - now a good HW who just drew with Povetkin
    Huck - veteran at CW with a million title defenses, should have been HW champ against Povetkin
    Briedis - undefeated also KO'd Charr at HW
    Gassiev - undefeated killer who was knocking people dead
    Bellew - who was on a long winning streak and beat current champ Makabu

    Not to mention, aside from the Briedis fight, he pretty much waxed all of these guys. If you want to say Usyk won't do well at HW, you are entitled to that opinion. But to discredit his accomplishment at CW is ridiculous and biased. You cannot call yourself a boxing fan if you discredit him.
     
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    Iain Member Full Member

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    George14 has it spot on.
    Well said lad
     
  12. The Real Lance

    The Real Lance Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    ^^ Gotta love when posters volunteer to show their ignorance....
     
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    bandeedo Loyal Member Full Member

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    No he doesn’t, cw has never been, arguably the best division...ever.
    That’s just the same bias he’s accusing others of, except the hyperbole is pointed in the other direction..
     
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    lordlosh Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    To be fair if you watch the fight against Bredis closely you will see that most Bredis punches landing on the air.
    Usyk beat everyone with dominant fashion. You can`t compare him to anyone at CW. He is once a generation special fighter, the same as Loma.
    The footwork, his timing, his speed and reflexes is absolutely top level, it doesn`t get better than this. He create insane angles, and move like a guy 2 division below.
     
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    herbzg Euro-Level Athlete Full Member

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    -Cunningham and Huck are old as dirt.
    -How exactly is Mchunu “near the top” of the division?
    -You rank Hunter for drawing with a mummified Povetkin ??
    -And the two undefeated Eurobots were never proven to be worth ****. They were only known for having lost to Usyk
    - And Cruiserweight was the best division in boxing? Log off please
     
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