Wilder's behaviour against Breland

Charlie Stewart · Feb 28, 2020

Dubblechin said: ↑

When George Foreman lost to Muhammad Ali, he fired the Hall of Fame former champs in his corner Sandy Saddler and Archie Moore, and he accused **** Saddler of poisoning him. (To make matters worse for Foreman, Saddler immediately joined the new champ Muhammad Ali's team, which made Foreman even more paranoid.)

The fact that Breland is friends with all the Kronk guys in Fury's corner, and that Breland was apparently convinced to throw in the towel by Anthony Dirrell, who is trained by Fury's new trainer, has certainly led to Wilder's paranoia.

And I'm being totally serious here. I can understand that many of you grew up or came to boxing when the heavyweight division was in its dog days and the Klitschko brothers treated the division like a cash-dispencer, both refusing to fight the best boxer remaining out there (each other).

But Wilder's behavior, and Fury's behavior, frankly, is normal when you look at the history of heavyweight champions.

For the most part, they were nearly all crazy.

That's because the World Heavyweight Champion, unlike champs in other divisions, is supposed to be able to beat up anyone. He's supposed to be the best fighter in the world. Among all humans, basically. That's the GOAL.

I'm not talking about make-believe pound-for-pound garbage. I mean, he's supposed to be able to beat any man on earth who steps up to him and wants to fight.

Norman Mailer, like 50 years ago, wrote this about Heavyweight boxing champions:

It can, in fact, be said that heavyweights are always the most lunatic of prizefighters.

Lightweights, welterweights, middleweights can all be exceptionally good, fantastically talented - but they are still very much in their place. The best lightweight in the world knows an unranked middleweight can defeat him on most nights. He knows the biggest strongman in a bar could handle him by sitting on him.

Since they are fighters who know their limitations, they are likely to strive for excellence in their category. We respect them and they deserve to be respected.

But heavyweights never have such simple sanity. It is like being the big toe of God. You have nothing to measure yourself by.

The closer a heavyweight comes to the championship, the more natural it is for him to be a little bit insane, secretly insane, for the heavyweight champion of the world is either the toughest man in the world or he is not, but there is a real possibility he is.

Floyd Mayweather walks around with body guards who are three times his size, because Mayweather, in person, is the size of a grammar school student. Most heavyweight champions in history didn't tend to travel with bodyguards, because they are supposed to be THE BEST FIGHTER IN THE WORLD.

And most heavyweight champions would rather freaking die (see Wilder) than have a fight stopped.

That's the mindset of a heavyweight champion. You can say that doesn't make sense, but that's been the mindset of nearly all the men who have held the World heavyweight championship.

That's why people at the time questioned Vitali Klitschko for quitting in the Byrd fight. It's why Liston was villified for quitting on his stool against the then-Cassius Clay. And it's why Joshua was lambasted for spitting out his mouthpiece against Ruiz and seemingly wanting to stop fighting, and then moments later grabbing the microphone and addressing the crowd like he was the emcee of the event. The last thing a guy who is the heavyweight champion is supposed to accept is defeat.

Wilder being angry and pissed and insisting the fight shouldn't have been stopped and demanding a rematch is how nearly all the TOP heavyweights have reacted in similar situations.

The guys who take losses like they are nothing and laugh them off are usually the ones who AREN'T in Canastota.

So, if you're wondering why Wilder is acting this way, and champs in lower divisions don't, it's because, like Mailer said, the champs in lower divisions know their limits.

You'll find few if any "good sports" after a loss in the history of the WORLD heavyweight championship.

Just thought I'd let you know that, since some of you seemingly aren't aware of this.
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great pst

mark ant · Feb 28, 2020

chico g said: ↑

Breland betrayed Deontay's trust. Now he's back in Alabama facing the consequences. The bomb squad and Mr Haymon aren't too impressed with his conduct, put it that way!
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Wilder was at the point of being knocked out taking heavy punches, it was inevitable he was going to be smashe to pieces, he could have been permanatly hurt.

Bustajay · Feb 28, 2020

ILikeBoxingForRealz said: ↑

Right! Rocky dropped the ball on that one
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TO THIS DAY

ILikeBoxingForRealz · Feb 28, 2020

Bustajay said: ↑

TO THIS DAY
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Deontay, that you? Lol

channy · Feb 28, 2020

Aydamn said: ↑

Wilder derived all his mental strength, and confidence, and power, and satisfaction, and pride from being undefeated... from having that ZERO.

He would wake up and be pleased with himself that he is the king, he walks over everyone, no one can beat him or make him feel small.

Just a bully/narcissist mentality... until he has that taken away from him. And now he cannot project himself as the baddest man on the planet anymore... his mind cant compute... he has to blame something or someone to justify the loss in his head... other than the primary reason that hhe just wasnt good enough or strong enough.

Wilders mentality is going through serious problems right now... he no longer has "baddest man on the planet" facade to milk or derive strength from ...
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I wonder what his "Alter Ego" is going thinking!!!

channy · Feb 28, 2020

Safin said: ↑

To my understanding, Deontay Wilder is taking a hiatus and will come to a decision at the end of March regarding Mark Breland.

If I were Mark Breland, that would be enough for me to take the high road and bolt.
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Me too, i would just give him the finger and fcuk off.

Any decent trainer out there should also give him the finger for his treatment of Breland.

Bustajay · Feb 28, 2020

ILikeBoxingForRealz said: ↑

Deontay, that you? Lol
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I just love that clip

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