Can someone explain to me how Wlad has a better resume than Wilder

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  1. reckless

    reckless Active Member Full Member

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    Who are his elite opponents? Fury and Joshua? He was 39 and 41 at the time he fought them. What were Ali, Tyson, Holmes like at that age?
     
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  2. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    Povetkin
    Chagaev
    Byrd
    Ibragimov
    Haye
    Peter
    Brewster
    Pulev
    Chambers
    Botha
    Mormeck
    Thompson
    Brock
    Mercer
    Shultz
    Jennings
    Wach
    Barrett
    McCline
    Rahman
    Jefferson
    Williamson
    Nicholson
    Shufford
    Austin

    vs

    OAP Ortiz
    Obese Haitian penguin Stiverne
     
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  3. Heavyrighthand

    Heavyrighthand Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    You have got to be kidding

    Liakhovich
    Chagaev
    Povetkin
    Haye
    Byrd



    Those five, to name a few, were all ELITES wins by anyone’s standards
     
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  4. Boxlight

    Boxlight Active Member banned Full Member

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    so Wlad is a step above Wilder in terms of ATG?
     
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  5. Heavyrighthand

    Heavyrighthand Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Wilder himself was the only one who considered himself an all-time great


    and I doubt even he sees that anymore LOL

    What a one-sided “Fury thrashing” that was, against an all time (ahem) “great”, such as Wilder
     
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  6. kirk

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    1. He didn't fight Liakhovich. Do you mean Sultan?

    2. Im a big Wlad fan, but I absolutely think those wins being labeled 'elite' are debatable. I definitely dont consider Sultan or Chag to be elite tier wins.
     
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  7. kirk

    kirk l l l Staff Member

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    I deleted your other threads because I thought you were trolling.

    If Wlad is before your time and you are genuinely wondering, then sorry about that.
     
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  8. Safin

    Safin Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    Yes, Wladimir Klitschko loved competing against midgets and/or cruiserweight like Chris Byrd, Sultan Ibragimov, Samuel Peter, Ruslan Chagaev, Jean-Marc Mormeck, Alex Leapai, Alexander Povetkin, Eddie Chambers, David Haye, Calvin Brock and god knows who else.

    The truth is, Wladimir Klitschko's reign over the division was full of no hopers. Those guys I mentioned are all 6'2'' or under. Don't even bother telling me David Haye is 6'3''. He's not.

    The only guys he fought over 6'2'' were old man Tony Thompson, Mariusz Wach, Francesco Pianeta, Kubrat Pulev and Bryant Jennings. All of whom were pretty useless.

    Whether people like it, or not, Wladimir Klitschko's resume is **** poor.
     
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  9. Braindamage

    Braindamage Baby Face Beast Full Member

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    Brock, Peter? LOL
     
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  10. bruce_keyes

    bruce_keyes Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Wladimir never fought Liakhovich bro
     
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  11. Heavyrighthand

    Heavyrighthand Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    You are right I stand corrected He never did fight liakhovic

    WLad was beaten by Brewster and went Life and death with Peter—— but came back and steamrolled both of them ala Lennox Lewis against Rahman and McCall

    Wilders best opponent was Ortiz


    Wlad has at least 6-8 opponents wins that were more impressive wins than Ortiz ——and not only did he beat them he beat them in grand fashion——— not getting clearly out boxed as Wilder was against Ortiz

    Wyler is not nowhere near on the level of what Vlad was Nor Vitalis level


    Not even close
     
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  12. Heavy_Hitter

    Heavy_Hitter Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Valuev fought Liakowitch and not Wlad.
     
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  13. Heavyrighthand

    Heavyrighthand Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Yes


    I mostly remember the fantastic fight between brewster and liakhovic


    that was quite a brawl
     
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  14. Reg

    Reg Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Wlad went down the top 10 list knocking out everyone with the exception of his brother.

    Wilder went 7 title defenses before fighting a single top 10 challenger. Then lost to the second top 10 fighter he faced.
     
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  15. Naked Snake

    Naked Snake Active Member Full Member

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    No, he definitely underestimated Fury

    One wonders how a rematch would have gone
     
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