Can someone explain to me how Wlad has a better resume than Wilder

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  1. Eggman

    Eggman "The cream of the crop! Nobody does it better! Full Member

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  2. Eggman

    Eggman "The cream of the crop! Nobody does it better! Full Member

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    Ali beat ELITE prime champs

    Tyson unified in devastating fashion against ELITE Spinks

    Holmes reign was similar to wlads, but best believe 9/10 Holmes beats wlad
     
  3. Reg

    Reg Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Wlad flattens Holmes.
     
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  4. Eggman

    Eggman "The cream of the crop! Nobody does it better! Full Member

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    Let me get this straight

    wlad will always be ranked above wilder

    but wlad has ZERO elite wins

    his legacy is longevity
     
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  5. Eggman

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    Yes he sure does.

    Wlad against prime ATG Holmes with with his ATG jab really messes Holmes up. Jeez
     
  6. Reg

    Reg Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    yep
     
  7. bowerboy

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    Let’s get this completely straight...he did NOT fight Povetkin...he just jumped on his back repeatedly...that was the most disgusting excuse for a boxing match I have ever seen in my life...that fight alone was enough to write off Klitschko as any kind of true Champion.
     
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  8. bowerboy

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    How many of his so called “Fights” were actual fights? As far as I saw it was all just a technique he had worked out to win on points using various mauling and jab and grab techniques....his fights were unwatchable. There is a famous author called Tim Ferris who won a world Taekwondo championship even though he had zero experience and zero fights. He studied the rules closely and worked out how to win fights on a technicality and that’s how he won his world title...zero skill or experience required....I always thought Klitschko was the same thing...the only times he ever dropped that style he lost.
     
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  9. Eggman

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    As boxing fans we can all surely agree that we are happy he has retired

    hopefully it stays that way
     
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  10. FrankinDallas

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    I don't agree. I think Fury had a great strategy to defeat him, and frustrated him like Leonard frustrated Duran in their
    second fight. Plus, let's face it, Wlad was past his due by date. One Wilder type excuse could be that he was going through
    a divorce with his midget wife, but he never said that was so.
     
  11. Luis Fernando

    Luis Fernando Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I mean, if it's still not clear enough for you, then maybe your IQ level isn't high enough to comprehend how?

    Wladimir Klitschko held 3 belts, and cleaned up the heavyweight division for a decade whilst staying on top without avoiding a single top level opponent outside of his brother Vitali Klitschko.

    Whilst Wilder held only 1 belt, for less than a decade, without ever cleaning up the heavyweight division and whilst avoiding multiple top-level opposition such as Dillian Whyte, Anthony Joshua, David Haye, Joseph Parker and many other top level heavyweights that could potentially beat him.

    I mean, to make this as clear as possible, name me one heavyweight (outside of his brother Vitali Klitschko) that Wladimir Klitschko could've fought that was risky and top-level, but refused to do so as Deontay Wilder has done with many opponents. That alone, makes Wladimir Klitschko's resume > Deontay Wilder's resume.

    Wlad fought all the best possible opposition that the division had to offer for a decade, barring his brother Vitali. Whilst Wilder has avoided 10+ top-level opposition the division has to offer.

    I mean, how is this that difficult to understand?

    And it's also ironic how some here are claiming Wladimir Klitschko never beat an 'elite' opponent. Like, this could be said about any heavyweight today.

    Which 'elite' heavyweight did Wilder ever beat? Luis Ortiz? Based on what?

    What 'elite' heavyweight did Tyson Fury beat? Wladimir Klitschko? Well, since Wladimir Klitschko never beat an 'elite' opponent himself, then how does that make Wladimir Klitschko an elite win for Fury? Deontay Wilder? Who did Wilder beat to make him 'elite'?

    I mean, everyone should get the general idea by now.

    Subjective statements such as 'elite' is irrelevant. What matters is how dominant you were in your own era against all the best opponents the division had to offer and for how long you stayed on top. And in that regard, Wladimir Klitschko > anybody today.
     
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  12. Ph33rknot

    Ph33rknot Live as if you were to die tomorrow Full Member

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    Yes much better Wilder ran from tekin
     
  13. kirk

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    No skill or experience required? Won only because of holding? His style was to win on points?

    Youre taking a reasonable position (that Wlads style was ugly, borderline cheating, and worthy of criticism) and macking a mockery of it via hyperbole.

    Wlads KO percentage, especially pre 35 years old, speaks for itself.

    Povetkin was knocked down... how many times? I forget. And by a 37 year old Wlad at that. Dudes lucky Wlad spent more time hugging him than hitting him, probably would have set a record for knockdowns.
     
  14. Naked Snake

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    He never married Hayden. What happened was she'd just had his daughter, was post-partum and, a month before the fight, went to the clinic to get treatment for post-partum.
    I honestly think that Klitschko's mind was not on the game. He might have said Fury would be an interesting opponent but I don't think he believed it in his mind. He'd seen off many hopefuls with as good or better pedigree than Fury. When it came to the fight he barely threw anything. It's not like he threw and missed, he barely threw at all. That's why I wasn't convinced about Fury off the back of Klitschko alone. If Klitschko had given Fury the fight he gave AJ, he'd have beaten Fury.
     
  15. MorvidusStyle

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    Wlad is a creepy self-righteous weirdo who spouts liberal slogans all over his Twitter like the most mentally submissive gelded matriarchal male you've ever met, someone who wouldn't be out of place at any 'SJW' rally.
    I'm sure his brother has a good dose of contempt for him.
    But somehow Wlad was a dominant champion and defeated very good fighters of his day.
    It's one of those strange paradoxes in Nature, the mind of a shemale with the physical attributes of a warrior.