who has the best resume of the Big 3 at the moment

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  1. Boxlight

    Boxlight Active Member banned Full Member

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    the big 3 currently are of course

    Wilder
    Joshua
    Fury

    who has the best resume of the 3 so far
     
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    81ZAR Dr. Steelhammer Full Member

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    Fury.

    Beat a fresher and more active version of Klitschko than Joshua did, ending a decade long reign.
    Beat Wilder twice and thrice if they meet again.

    Fury>Joshua>Wilder
     
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    Eggman "The cream of the crop! Nobody does it better! Full Member

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    Fury
    Aj
    Whyte
    Ruiz
    Wilder
     
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    PH|LLA VIP Member

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    Fury has the best resume.
    Wilder and Joshua are close but edge to AJ cause he avenged that loss.
    Fury still needs to beat Joshua to lay claim as undisputed/lineal champ.
     
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    Aydamn Dillian Da Dissappointment Full Member

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    See I have a problem taking into account fighters who have fought champions, and then comparing them with another fighter who hasn't had the same chance.

    So for that reason, the Wilder win is a nice one by Fury, but AJ did not get his chance and hence I cannot compare.

    On the klitcko one, I think AJ did well and Fury did well. Not AJ's fault Fury got there quicker... Fury was a pro before AJ, and fought him in his 25th fight as opposed to AJ who got Klitchko on his 19th fight and AJ KOd Wlad not going the distance.

    Outside of that... AJ has fought better competition than Fury's last 5 opponents.... therefore

    AJ > Fury > Wilder
     
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    George Crowcroft He Who Saw The Deep Full Member

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    Joshua.
     
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    22JM Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Ruiz has the best win of them all.
     
  8. Doppleganger

    Doppleganger Southside Slugger Full Member

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    Did he really beat the fresher version though? I would argue that the hungry, motivated, focused Wlad that Joshua fought was the better version, despite being a couple of years older. Whilst it was a great performance by Fury, the Wlad he fought had significant personal issues outside the ring and was jaded and unmotivated. On the flip side, he had a real hunger and drive when he challenged AJ and I really thought he was going to smash Joshua.

    He very nearly did. That version of Wlad would have given Fury all the trouble he could handle.
     
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    lordlosh Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    Joshua is number 1, no doubt about it.
    And not only he have the best resume, he have better resume than this 2 combined.
    Klitschko
    Povetkin
    Whyte
    Parker
    Takam
    Ruiz
    And now Pulev.
    No one currently beat this.

    And no Fury did not beat better version of Wlad. Klitschko obviously wasn`t motivated as much, as well as prepared, and most probably underestimate Fury, who runs out of the rematch TWICE, while Joshua was ready to give Klitschko rematch, but Klitschko refuse it. Klitschko was 39 and 41 and very much was past his prime, but it`s not like one of them beat the prime version and the other fight a washed version of him.

    And Pulev will be best Wilder win or equal to Ortiz one. And Pulev would be 3rd best win for Fury.

    In Joshua resume Pulev will be number 6-7.
     
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    bailey Loyal Member Full Member

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    Its a tough one between Fury and Joshua imo

    Fury has the greater singular win over Wladimir
    After that I think Joshua has the next best win also over Wladimir

    Joshua has beaten several top 10 rated fighters -


    I guess it could come down to what you like

    Fury - Wladimir, Wilder, Chisora, Chisora again, Hammer, Cunningham
    Joshua - Wladimir, Povetkin, Whyte, Parker, Martin, Ruiz, Breazeale,


    In guess if you put what you think are their top 5 wins in order of how you rate them might give an idea

    Wladimir - Fury
    Wladimir - Joshua
    Povertkin - Joshua
    Wilder - Fury
    Chisora 2 - Fury
    Whyte - Joshua
    Parker - Joshua
    Chisora 1 - Fury
    Martin - Joshua
    Hammer - Fury

    I think Fury beat Wilder first time they fought and would have that on the list if not for the official decision, so I think Fury has the best resume, followed closely by Joshua and wouldnt argue if someone saw it the other way.

    Im not knocking Wilder because he has had a good career, but Whyte is rated above Wilder by the Ring mag and is the other of the big 3 and he has a decent resume himself
     
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    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    AJ

    Wlad - 41 y/o inactive for 1.5 years
    Povetkin - 39 y/o
    Parker
    Whyte
    Ruiz


    Takam
    Breazeale
    Martin

    Fury

    Wlad - 39 y/o
    Bootleg D x 2
    Chisora x 2


    Cunningham
    Kevin Johnson
    Wallin

    But he beat Wlad and Bootleg D in their backyards on a deck that was stacked against him and they were both long reigning champions, whereas AJ fought Wlad, Povetkin, Parker, Takam, Breazeale, and Martin at home where everything was in his favour and the only time he fought over in his opponent's backyard (country) he got stopped. Ruiz, Parker and Martin were reigning champs and the later won his by default on a freak knee injury.

    Bootleg D

    Ortiz x 2 - who was 2 weeks shy of 39th birthday for their first fight and 40 for rematch
    Stiverne - 36 and 39 respectively for first fight and rematch



    Scott
    Breazeale
    Szpilka
    Duhaupas
    Arreola - way past best
    Washington
    Molina

    Garbage
     
  12. Dubblechin

    Dubblechin Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Well, Klitschko is retired and has been for three years. (And Klitschko hadn't won a fight in years when Joshua fought him.)

    And Povetkin #6, Parker #7, Ruiz #5 are all currently rated below Luis Ortiz at #4.

    Pulev and Takam aren't rated by Ring at all.

    So, I know people like to tout Joshua's record, but, in the current climate, his best wins are basically a lot of middle-of-the-road guys who aren't even rated as high as Luis Ortiz right now. And Ortiz is older than all of them.

    The best win Joshua has over a current contender is his win years ago before he ever won a title over Whyte (who is currently rated #2). And that win took place so long ago Donald Trump was still hosting The Apprentice.

    Wilder floored the current world champion twice and drew with him 14 months ago, and he has two convincing KOs over the #4 contender.

    If Wilder fights Fury in July, as is now been said, he'll have fights with:
    * Luis Ortiz (current #4)
    * Tyson Fury (World Champ)
    * Dominic Breazeale (current #16)
    * Luis Ortiz (current #4)
    * Tyson Fury (World Champ)
    * Tyson Fury (World Champ)

    In his last six fights. Frankly, that blows Joshua's resume out of the water.

    When Wilder fights Fury in July, he'll have fought Ortiz and Fury TWICE in the same time frame it took Joshua to rematch Andy Ruiz and fight Pulev.

    Over the last few years, Wilder's resume is better than anyone's in the top 10 (BY FAR)
     
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  13. Stiff Jab

    Stiff Jab Despiser of Super-Middleweights Full Member

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    Fury has the better wins (Wilder and a better version of Wlad whatever the AJ-tards say) but in terms of depth it's not even close: AJ.
     
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    Boxlight Active Member banned Full Member

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    this thread seems to be a debate between AJ and Fury

    Wilder's resume is that bad huh?
     
  15. Dubblechin

    Dubblechin Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    It's kind of laughable, because, in July, Wilder will have faced:

    * Luis Ortiz (current #4)
    * Tyson Fury (World Champ)
    * Dominic Breazeale (current #16)
    * Luis Ortiz (current #4)
    * Tyson Fury (World Champ)
    * Tyson Fury (World Champ)

    In his last six fights.
     
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