Mayweathers win over Canelo is one of the greatest in boxing history

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  1. acie2g

    acie2g Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Dude there is not 1 fighter who would be favored over Mayweather outside of heavyweights in the past 20 years. As far as matchup thinking back over the decade I mean I think you'd def have to put it up there if for no other reason than most of these guys ain't fighting nobody to begin with, Ward over Kovalev in the rematch, Fury over Klitchko maybe Roman's upset ko loss in rematch could be up there but over all if we are looking at both fighters this is really one of the few fights weee we really have 2 ATG fighters still close to maximum capacity Floyd a little out and Canelo a little before.
    Personally I wouldn't expect an accurate account of this fight anyway Mayweather was the most hated and Canelo is the most hated now.
     
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    PH|LLA VIP Member Full Member

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    Canelo could barely get passed Lara and Trout.
     
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    22JM Boxing Addict Full Member

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    No. Canelo was very green not even close what the fighter hes today, don't forget the catch weight, Mayweather was smart enough to get him in the perfect time.
     
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  4. herbzg

    herbzg Euro-Level Athlete Full Member

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    yes it was . Canelo was very experienced and had weighed in as low as 153 for the trout bout. The catch weight was 152, don’t be an idiot. Mayweather was near 40 , washed up, and outweighed by 20 pounds , if anything canelo was the one catching mayweather at the “right time”
     
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    Furey EST & REG 2009 Full Member

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    Lol severely weight drained? 152 for Floyd and he weighed in at 153 in the fight before against Trout....

    Also we know who the weight bully is. Canelo was said to be over 170 on the night against Trout even back then whereas Floyd at that stage in his career wouldn't have been a great deal heavier.
     
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    22JM Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Don't be a idiot, Canelo was not the fighter hes today, aside from that Mayweather style ages up well because he doesn't receive a lot of punishment, just look at Hokpkins destroying a PRIME Trinidad when Tito was at his BEST.
     
  7. herbzg

    herbzg Euro-Level Athlete Full Member

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    Hopkins got a late start to boxing which is why he was able to perform well into his 40s, Mayweather had been boxing since he was a teenager so had many more miles on his body than Hopkins did at the same age. Horrible comparison.

    Canelo caught mayweather at the perfect time ( when he was old and on the decline ) and still couldnt win. The reason Canelo didn’t look like “the fighter he is today” as you put it is because he was fighting a superior boxer in Mayweather.
     
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  8. Pimp C

    Pimp C Too Much Motion Full Member

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    Canelo had almost as many fights as PBF did back then he was also the unified champ of the division and a top 10 P4P ranked fighter. He wasn't green if that's the case PBF was old and the smaller man so then it evens it out.
     
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    Pimp C Too Much Motion Full Member

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    Perfectly put.
     
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  10. Charles Dance

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    Being a 3/1 underdog is only relative to the ability of your opponent. By your understanding every win over a 3/1 underdog is of equal value when that obviously isn’t the case. It’s a useless metric for measuring the quality of a win.
     
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  11. Nonito Smoak

    Nonito Smoak Ioka>Lomo, sorry my dudes Full Member

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    Plenty of -1,000+ favorites lose and aren't among the best wins of the given month. Odds definitely do not indicate the greatness of a win when talking about the totality of the sport.
     
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    Nonito Smoak Ioka>Lomo, sorry my dudes Full Member

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    It's probably the top win of the decade.

    It was underrated from the moment it ended. And it legitimately aged better than anyone would have thought.
     
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    Bulldog24 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Rock0052 Loyal Member Full Member

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    It's only useless when people want to revise the value of a win years after the fact, which is absurd.


    It's a reflection, along with the Trout and Lara fights, of how good Canelo actually was at the time. Not how good Floyd fanboys want to pretend he was.
     
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    Rock0052 Loyal Member Full Member

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    It's not close to Wlad-Fury or the JMM-Pac knockout.

    There's others I'd put above it as well, like May-Pac and Pac-Thurman
     
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