to be fair tyson fury would be an average boxer

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  1. Boxlight

    Boxlight Active Member banned Full Member

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    if he wasn't 6f9 270lb
     
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  2. Eggman

    Eggman "The cream of the crop! Nobody does it better! Full Member

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    If you shrunk him to say 6 4 I still think he would win a world title
     
  3. Ted Stickles

    Ted Stickles Boxing Addict Full Member

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    If you shrunk him down he’d be Andy Ruiz lol
     
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  4. catchwtboxing

    catchwtboxing Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Idiotic. Size is a physical attribute, just like any. You Wild-tards are something else. By the way, one of the secrets of both Ali and Jack Johnson was that they were significantly taller than most of their opponents. In any event...

    ...Wilder would be a prelim bum if he didn't have some right hand power.

    ...Ali would have been an average contender if he wasn't fast.

    ...Marciano would have been a fringe guy if he didn't have stamina.

    ....McCall would have been a can if he didn't have a great chin

    ...Tyson would a been a mere forgettable belt-holder if he didn't have handspeed

    And on and on.

    You might as well say, "Fury wouldn't be good if he wasn't good." It is tautological.
     
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  5. Eggman

    Eggman "The cream of the crop! Nobody does it better! Full Member

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    exactly. And what’s more fury actually uses his size, unlike David price etc
     
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  6. catchwtboxing

    catchwtboxing Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Another very fine point that I didn't even really think of.
     
  7. fistsof steel

    fistsof steel Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Top 2 in a very ordinary Division....
     
  8. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me

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    He's the best heavyweight on the planet but that could in truth still put him outside the p4p top 50. :sisi1
     
  9. Boxed Ears

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    Shh shh shh shh shhhhhhh. Let's just enjoy this moment together. Don't ruin this for us. Hold me tight and don't let go. You've got a right to lose control. Shhhhhh...
     
  10. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me

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    you smell like baby powder
     
  11. vast

    vast Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Which is why he is so good.
     
  12. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    If Bootleg D was 6'7'' and 215-230lbs with an 83'' reach he'd be an uncoordinated zero skill bum with a big right hand.
     
  13. Iain

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    I'd be a heavyweight if I wasn't 74kg
    I'd be black if I weren't white
    I'd be a woman if I wasn't a man
    And so on etc etc
     
  14. mirkofilipovic

    mirkofilipovic ESB Management Full Member

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    You poor boy, still struggling with the loss. Get used to taking L’s son.
     
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  15. MorvidusStyle

    MorvidusStyle Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Firstly, he's not 6'9, he's 6'7 at best and only slightly taller than Wlad/Vitali, with less muscle.

    For his size he has amazing feet, speed, handspeed, reflexes, coordination. Enough trainers, fighters have mentioned it by now.

    If you want to shrink him, you have to be fair and understand what happens when you get smaller.

    Your feet, speed, handspeed, reflexes and coordination all increase. This is quite obvious just moving down the weight classes. Or comparing an elephant to a ferret.

    So when you do shrink Fury, he's going to excel in all the same areas relative to his opposition of that size all over again.

    This is why the P4P arguments are dumb in terms of 'slick' skill, because on the flip side when you take a smaller slickster up to HW, they don't maintain that agility and finesse due to the massive body they now operate in.

    If you took Fury down to MW, he would probably look a lot like BJS, but less defensive.
     
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