How on earth is Betulio Gonzales (3Xchamp) who fought in a killer flyweight division not in the HOF?

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  1. TheEliteMaster100

    TheEliteMaster100 Member Full Member

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    Fought the following;

    Oguma 4 x’s
    Canto 3 x’s
    Oba
    Borkhorsor
    Socrates Batoto (fought Zamora at Bantemweight)
    Espadas
    Alberto Castro (super flyweight challenger)
    Ibarra
    Laciar (who should be in the hOF too)
    Juan Herrera
    Salavarria
    Udella
    Alberto Morales (beat Espada and Salavarria)

    Like what the heck? fought everyone
     
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  2. ChrisJS

    ChrisJS Boxing Addict Full Member

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    There’s a few guys like that who should be in like Gilberto Roman, Jose Medel, Lionel Rose, Jose Legra, Santos Laciar, Chucho Castillo, Rafael Herrera etc; IMO who absolutely should be in and there’s some guys (who I really like) who shouldn’t. I guess it’s too much about fame than what a hall of fame should really be about.
     
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  3. roughdiamond

    roughdiamond Ridin' the rails... Full Member

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    Because they are ******ed. They don't have Ernest Marcel in there either, and he's one of the best Featherweights of the past 50 years.
     
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  4. The Funny Man 7

    The Funny Man 7 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Rafael Herrera is another insane omission:

    Wins over a prime Ruben Olivares (X2), Chucho Castillo, and Rudolfo Martinez (X2)
     
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  5. George Crowcroft

    George Crowcroft Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Really? I'd have thought Fame, is what a hall of fame is about.

    It is bad, though.
     
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  6. scartissue

    scartissue Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Not to mention wins over Venice Borkorsor, Romeo Anaya, Famoso Gomez and Cesar Deciga. Herrera is so overlooked.
     
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  7. George Crowcroft

    George Crowcroft Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    González is probably the GOAT Venezuelan.
     
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  8. ChrisJS

    ChrisJS Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Well, yes the title is hall of fame but it really means the best of the best.
     
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  9. Flo_Raiden

    Flo_Raiden Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I agree, Gonzalez is probably the best Venezuelan boxer and his resume is stacked. Funny enough Masao Ohba (the guy who very narrowly beat Gonzalez) got in the HOF before him.
     
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  10. McGrain

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    Because the HoF is nonsensical.

    It's a grand weekend, that end of it looks fun. But inductees, it's a joke. Don't worry about who is in and out of it, it's no different to worrying about the IBF rankings.
     
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  11. Saad54

    Saad54 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Its not who you fought, it's who you beat.

    That said, as a 3 time champ, he probably should be in. Beat Canto once for a title.
     
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  12. Rope-a-Dope

    Rope-a-Dope Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    A lot of people are biased against the lower weight classes and overlook them in general.
     
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