Whyte/Povetkin official

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  1. Twentyman

    Twentyman You dog nonce! banned Full Member

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    It’s an interesting fight, a great undercard fight to a PPV main event. It’s even a Saturday night quality headline fight of the standard they had a few years ago....it’s not a PPV headline fight. I enjoy Whyte’s fights, he’s really entertaining because he can dig but there’s also vulnerability to him as his balance is sloppy and he gets chinned a lot. I do get tired of the articles on sky sports where he’s calling someone a coward but as previous for not wanting Usyk, Ortiz or Pulev and turning down a title shot against Joshua.

    I think Joyce & Dubois would starch Povetkin now. The decline is significant. His style needs a serious gas tank and durability, both of which he no longer possess. It’s a simple game plan for Whyte...use the jab, tie him up, lean on him (something Whyte excels at), chin him with a chopping left hook.
     
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  2. ryanm8655

    ryanm8655 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Agree, thought he got a gift draw against hunter and was close to being stopped. Actually had to cover my Hunter to win bet with a bet on the stoppage to guarantee a return...then those scorecards...
     
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    I think i scored it about 8-4 on the night and he was very lucky to make it through the first round. Makes me wonder...Did Povetkin get gifted a draw because this fight with Whyte was already pencilled in? It as been talked about since he chinned Price. Can’t help but feel that the pieces have been moved on the board to secure a PPV date, Whyte v Pov sells better imo than Whyte v Hunter.
     
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  4. moog

    moog Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I think it's a decent fight, just dont think it should be Sky ppv. I also believe they have served Hunter, who is also a Matchroom fighter and is more deserving of this shot that Povetkin. I hope you enjoy the fight mate. Manchester is a good city by day but tbh I think the nightlife in Manchester itself is crap. Likes of Sale on edge of Manchester is a good area for a night out (about 20 mins on tram from next to arena).
     
  5. TonyHayers

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    If you want to keep moaning about the fight being PPV then be prepared to have to face the reality of the business behind the fight. It's that simple. They patently are justifiable from a business angle.

    Moaning about PPV is very, very boring I grant you, but I'm a fairly bored person so no skin off my nose. Every single time literally any fight is created there is moaning about it either being PPV or the price of said PPV. It's endless, repetitive, but unfortunately never going away because by and large PPV equals more money going into boxing and absolutely nobody who is earning any percentage of that cash is going to turn it down. Paying twenty quid to watch Dillian Whyte is no more of a moral disgrace than Gillette selling razors which cost pence for a tenner a go. 'The CEO is rich enough anyway - they should be giving them away free!'

    Back to the fight, my point is a very genuine one. Wilder, Fury, Joshua and Pulev and Usyk are tied up. So you don't have many others. Nobody who has been mentioned would come without questions. Povetkin; old. Ortiz; older. Parker; beaten him already. Kownacki; untested nobody. You know this.
     
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    Chisora's 33rd birthday was 29 December 2016. The fight took place before that date. You're wrong.

    If Whye is pointing out that Wilder fights old guys he's not wrong. Average age of Wilder's opponents since he won the world title is older than Whyte's even if we just use the arbitrary line of 'post-AJ' and include clear stay-busy fights against the likes of Wach and domestic level opponents like Lewison.

    Your point?
     
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  7. Aydamn

    Aydamn Dillian Da Dissappointment Full Member

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    Yeah Povetkin might be getting on a bit but given his recent fight with a young hungry lion in Hunter who was hyped to death by majority of the forum as the HW killer as the slick cruiserweight “cant touch this”... and Povetkin derailed that hype train in his old age.. I mean wtf??????

    So what is Hunter
    Good for if he cant beat Povetkin in his prime?!?!?!?

    So this is a legitimate fight as many had Hunter beating Whyte!

    This fight will sell like hot cakes because thats just what Whyte does... earned 5 million from a non title fight... the UK love him
     
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  8. Inglis_1

    Inglis_1 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Sorry what's Wilder got to do with this conversation?

    As I said, Whyte either faces fringe contenders or we'll past it old men and all in the UK unless it's someone at the level of Malcolm Tann or Mariusz Wach (which he still barely got past). He ducked Pulev for an eliminator, ducked Ortiz for an eliminator, and ducked AJ for 3 belts yet still moans about lack of opportunities.

    He can just stick to facing fringe contenders/past it old men I guess in his own backyard like he's doing against a well past it 40 year old next.
     
  9. Wizbit1013

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    good,intriguing fight

    Not interested in it as a headliner however

    I think twentyman got it bang on when he said its a fantastic co main event type deal
     
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  10. themaster999

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    We will all need payday loans the way Eddie and the gang are spurting out PPVs.
     
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  11. Aydamn

    Aydamn Dillian Da Dissappointment Full Member

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    Average age of Dillian Whytes last 9 fights (not counting Chisora twice) is 32.88 years old

    For comparison:

    AJ: 31.88
    Wilder: 33.25 if we take Ortiz' official age otherwise it's 36 (not counting Ortiz or Fury twice)
    Fury: 31.33

    But what does age even mean really?

    Lack of experience? How did a veteran look in their last fight? Did they age well? Talent... skill... who they fought...

    Not every fighter shows their signs of age at the same rate as other... and Povetkin showed he still got it against Hunter who is in his prime
     
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    Whys Whyte not answering Parkers calls brother ? Not another case of the quacks ?

    Would rather see that fight again. Even Wilder had the decency to fight Ortiz (remember him Whyte fans) again after his victory that had a slight controversy in it. Proper fighting man.
     
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  13. Inglis_1

    Inglis_1 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Parker having Hearn as a promoter makes it a level playing field if they fought again. Whyte doesn't want that after getting plenty of help to get him over the line when they fought.
     
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  14. Mitch87

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    The underrating of all 3 in Whyte, Povetkin and Hunter is shocking.

    Povetkin would lose to Dubois? The same guy his management have no interest in the offers to fight Bakole and Hrgovic (presumably due what happend in sparring)? I would heavily favour Povetkin to beat Dubois at present, as proven in his previous performance in his fight against Hunter. I would also back Povetkin to KO Joyce in 3 rounds due to his non existent defence and Povetkin's left hook. Aslo Joyce just about only edged Jennings in a very close fight and even Jennings caused him all sorts of problems.

    I would be rooting for either Joyce or Dubois in a potential fight against Povetkin (because their English and come across well) but they're not Povetkin's level yet.
     
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    Parker was in his twenties, had only lost to Joshua and was a former world champion. Rivas was a 32 year-old 26-0 opponent. Neither are past it old men and both obviously 'contenders.' You appear to be factually incorrect about something you're claiming to have an opinion on which simply screams bias.

    Let's say he ducked Ortiz and Pulev. I sincerely doubt your position would be 'great fight.' It would inevitably be that Pulev is old and Ortiz is older.