Wilder takes George Foreman's offer!

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  1. Geo1122

    Geo1122 Active Member Full Member

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    Being a great athletes does not equate to being a great trainer/coach. It’s the biggest fight in Wilder’s career. I wouldn’t recommend letting Foreman play trainer for it.
     
  2. PernellSweetPea

    PernellSweetPea Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    George is better than Floyd. Wilder does not have the amateur experience to fight a specific style and win like a Leonard or Spinks. Foreman might get him strong and work out and to work the body. He will teach a puncher how to punch better.
     
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  3. Sugar 88

    Sugar 88 Woke Moralist-In-Chief

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    He'll do his best to turn Wilder into a lean, mean Fury punching machine but I think it's too late for Wilder to learn anything considerable at that point in his career.

    Especially so considering that he's pretty much dismissed anything any trainer/ex fighter has tried to teach him in the past. I expect him to get stopped again and this time blame George Foreman's 'bad advice' saying he should of fought his natural fight.
     
  4. Holler

    Holler Doesn't appear to be a paid matchroom PR shill Full Member

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    This isn't about training, or at least the training aspect is not the driving force behind it.

    If you wanted to iron out the flaws in Wilder's technique you would take step aside money and go to one of the current top trainers. He'd be hidden in their gym, relentlessly working on technique, trying to make those fundamentals reflex actions.

    Maybe the right trainer could do something, but really, this guy will be 35 before the end of the year and the likelihood is that there's not much improvement to come. So instead, they've exercised the 6 month rematch clause. They've hired the guy that everyone in America recognises, including the casuals who don't know anything about boxing.

    PBC now have a guy who can go on all the talk shows, spin some yarns about Ali, Manila, Cooking Grilles and Doritos ads, then talk about his fantastic time coaching Wilder and how the next fight is going to be very different. How Wilder needs America's support and how he hopes everyone will be tuning in to see him wrest back the title and bring it home for Uncle Sam.

    What a great story, the guy who made his own storied comeback now helping Wilder! He'll likely be worth every penny that they pay him. I just don't see that value coming from the training sessions, except those that are filmed and distributed on social media to build the fight.
     
  5. Somali Sanil

    Somali Sanil Wild Buffalo Man banned Full Member

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    Done wonders for Davis hasn't he, made him look like the biggest idiot in town...Its all about Floyd, not the fighter
     
  6. themaster999

    themaster999 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Can't wait to see Old George yelling BOMBSQUAD.

    The problem with getting George on board is that Wilder isn't George, not anywhere near.

    Remember when Lennox got involved with Big Pricey ? That's what will happen here.
     
  7. timeout

    timeout Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Wilder doesn't need a trainer he needs a surgeon to give him a chin&ear transplant. Something more durable.
     
  8. Naked Snake

    Naked Snake Active Member Full Member

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    Is this a hypothetical or is it really happening?
     
  9. bruce_keyes

    bruce_keyes Well-Known Member Full Member

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    source for proof he accepted the offer? can't find anything
     
  10. dirty boy

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    Wilder lighter would suit better, but his footwork still wouldn't be good enough to stop Fury cutting off the ring and doing what he wanted.

    Fury only loses if he goes off the rails again and takes Wilder lightly.
     
  11. divac

    divac Loyal Member Full Member

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    Block shots and be patient until the time is just ripe.
    Foreman vs Moorer.

    Let someone else do the training, I think Foremant can help Wilder more as an advisor.
     
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    DavidC77 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    The only way Wilder can win the third fight is if Fury gets complacent and doesn't train as hard
     
  13. DoubleJab666

    DoubleJab666 Dot, dot, dot... Full Member

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    There's too much muscle-memory in Wilder's boxing for anyone to make a serious change in his style or technique in such a short space of time. If Wilder was serious about reinventing himself, he would take warm-up fights to practice new skills before getting back into the ring with Fury.

    And if Wilder had displayed a capacity and willingness to learn throughout his career, I would be more sold on this idea, but he has dogmatically clung to the 'right hand equaliser' one size fits all 'game plan' for 40+ fights and at this stage I can't see him learning to be effective when moving backwards, or moving at all come to think of it.

    I think @Holler has nailed it when it comes to the motivation behind this, and honestly, Wilder would be best served to come in lighter, box as he always has and hope he gets lucky.

    He's never going to outbox Fury. He's never going to have the physical endurance of Fury. So he might as well fall back on what he knows and roll the dice...
     
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    African Cobra The Right Honourable Lord President of the Council banned Full Member

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    Floyd has been great for Tank who is the most exciting talent and was the youngest world champion for a while.
     
  15. The Clan

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    Lennox is a big man, who at just over 6’5” tall is not too dissimilar to Wilder in height and reach, couple this with his boxing ability and experience it makes Lewis the ideal choice. He’s also a product of Emmanuel Steward and as such will know how Sugar Hill is prepping Fury for the next fight. That makes him the best man on the planet to understand how to beat what a Steward trained fighter will bring.
     
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