Clenelo Alvaroid's Best "Wins" All Have An Asterisk...

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  1. Pakkuman

    Pakkuman I'm not hot. I'm just BIG. banned Full Member

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    Trout
    • Robbery with a Draw being the absolute best case for Clenelo
    Lara
    • Robbery with a Draw being the absolute best case for Clenelo
    Golovkin
    • 2 straight up robberies with the vast majority of fans, fighters, and media having GGG as the winner in both matches
    • Fought with bricks in his gloves and PEDs in his system for the first fight
    Kovalev (Shotvalev/Vodkalev)
    • 3 week break before starting camp coming off of a grueling fight with Yarde and almost getting KO'd
    • Crippling rehydration clause
    Jacobs
    • Crippling rehydration clause
    Fielding
    • Crippling rehydration clause
     
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  2. Hanz Cholo

    Hanz Cholo Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Nah only real asterisk is 1st GGG fight
    But that was a draw.
    I scored for GGG win.

    rehydration clauses , catch weights
    & close fights going the way of fan favorite with huge following is not asterisks that’s boxing...
    hell thats life my G.
     
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  3. herbzg

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    Alvarez would be nothing without GBP and his massive following. He arguably lost to Trout, Lara, GGG, he drained Kovalev to death, and in many peoples eyes he even lost/drew with Jacobs . He’s not what he’s made out to be. He would arguably have 4-5 losses on his record if he were just an average boxer with an average following
     
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  4. lordlosh

    lordlosh Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    I still to this day can`t see how you can score GGG - Canelo 2 for Canelo. Golovkin won that pretty easy. The fight wasn`t hard at scoring.
    It was a pure robbery.
    There was a poll, and 93% of the people voted for Golovkin won the fight.
    It wasn`t close fight, that could go either way, it was competitive fight, that was clearly won by GGG.
    Canelo is the only one who always get the wrong decision in his favor.
    And to the OP you missed the draw from 1 of the judges gainst Floyd.
     
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  5. Ph33rknot

    Ph33rknot Take the risk or lose the chance Full Member

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    Still don't understand the trout one close fight = no robbery
     
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  6. Serge

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    I think the deck-stacking Grotesque Ginger Clenbuterol Toad/poster boy for corruption in the sport is a very talented fighter, but I had him losing both GGG fights even though he jacked himself silly with PEDs for rematch and GGG was way past his best.

    I had Trout beating him too.

    And Sergey Shotalev was well on his way to being robbed too had his gas tanks not ever so predictably run dry which Clenelo knew damn sure they would.

    Miguel Vazquez is adamant he was robbed against him too and many feel Lara beat him too.

    Believe it or not, I actually used to like Clenelo before he morphed into a deck-stacking poster boy for corruption and bolted into the darkest corner of the chicken coop when prime GGG was on the prowl, patiently biding his time waiting for him to age and decline. It was such a shameless duck and my dislike for him and his fangirls was compounded by the way he and many of them carried on after he received a gift in the first fight and ditto for the rematch.

    How many fights with controversial decisions has he been involved in throughout his career but not a single one has gone against him.
     
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  7. IsaL

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    Pacquiao:

    • Erik Morales shot and weight drained.
    • David Diaz the worst lightweight who became titlist by getting gift against shot fighter
    • Ricky Hatton had already been KTFO, battle worn and at the end of his career
    • ODLH was shot and weight drained
    • Antonio Margarito was shot and weight drained
     
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  8. JL Fighter

    JL Fighter Boxing Addict Full Member

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    What about Amir King Khan?
     
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  9. IsaL

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    The Canelo hater/GGGoon daily support thread.

    It's ok fellas. You guys will be ok
     
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  10. Pakkuman

    Pakkuman I'm not hot. I'm just BIG. banned Full Member

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    Bro, we're talking about the Catch-weight King and PED user Clenelo...

    You okay?

    :lol:
     
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  11. Lazar

    Lazar Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Even his loss has an asterisk. 114-114

    :lol:
     
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  12. IsaL

    IsaL VIP Member Full Member

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    Catchweight king is Pacquiao. Everyone knows that. Just Google catchweight king and you'll see.

    Hey, tell me again your theory about Canelo weighing more than Kovalev on fight night draining Saunders... I need a good laugh.
     
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  13. Heavy_Hitter

    Heavy_Hitter Boxing Addict Full Member

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    He still would be a solid B plus fighter, who is good enough to be competitive with the best, but not good enough to win.
     
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  14. George Crowcroft

    George Crowcroft He Who Saw The Deep Full Member

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    *Says everyone else is insecure*
    *Brings up Pacquiao for no reason to try and offend someone else*

    You're a complete ****. It's funny.

    Pacquiao is an ATG who has beaten HOFers clear as can be, has spent the last 10 years of his career as a the significantly smaller man. Pacquiao also never ducked anyone, never popped dirty and doesn't use rehydration clauses. Unlike a certain favourite of yours...

    How many catch weights has Pacquiao actually used? 3? Cotto, Marquez and Margarito? Yeah, coz that makes Pacquiao a worse offender than Canelo. Two of those fighters are naturally smaller than the weight they fought at anyway. :lol:
     
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  15. Reppin501

    Reppin501 The People's Champ Full Member

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    One of, if not the best, resumes in boxing, doing all he can to make the biggest/best fights, will box with boxers...bang with bangers, isn’t a criminal, easy to see why you wouldn’t like him. “Boxing fans” are some of the saddest people on earth.
     
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