Clenelo Alvaroid's Best "Wins" All Have An Asterisk...

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  1. Hanz Cholo

    Hanz Cholo Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    some people say Golden Boy Would be nothing with out Canelo
    Seems to be Symbiotic
     
  2. George Crowcroft

    George Crowcroft He Who Saw The Deep Full Member

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    Of course I know that Pakkuman is Tomato/Android. The guy loves Pacquiao. There's nothing wrong with that, at all.
    You call out hypocrisy/double standards? No, you deflect and inflame threads, which literally have absolutely nothing to do with Pacquiao to get a kick. It's sad.

    Morales' one fight at LW, which he lost. Is that what you're going off? :facepalm: you know Pacquiao moved up to fight Morales in the first fight? Ok then. Irrational hate and desperately grasping at straws.

    So he didn't drain Mosley? :lol:

    Del a Hoya offered to go down to Welterweight. Pacquiao didn't force him too.

    Yeah, that's one. Which Cotto made with ease and was originally came from 140 anyway.

    He dragged Marquez up 3lbs? There was a POUND difference between them. FOH.

    Yeah, and? Canelo used rehydration clauses to limit people AT THEIR OWN WEIGHT. Canelo made his own weight. In fact he's infamous for it. He also got busted for PEDs and has countless dodgy cards. :deal:

    You wanna know what you're doing right now? Being a hypocrite with double standards.
     
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  3. Hanz Cholo

    Hanz Cholo Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Simple enough.
    I been watching boxing for about 30years...
    It’s bull feces but it’s definitely part of the game.
     
  4. Bustajay

    Bustajay Feel the Steel/Balls Deep Full Member

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    LOL
    DONT STOP GET IT GET IT , George!!!
    @IsaL is so far up Canelo aze he can smell that tainted meat from 2018:risas3:
    :risas3:
     
  5. m.s.

    m.s. Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Pacquiao had a decent reason to. He was coming way up in weight, while Canelo was trying to force GGG to come down to 155 lbs. The problem with that is while Canelo was fighting at 154 lbs he would enter the ring at 172 lbs to 174lbs and when GGG fought at 160lbs he would come into the ring at 170 lbs most of the time. At GGG'S heaviest next day weight he was 173 lbs vs Rubio and Martrosyan. GGG never really had a size advantage, that's why HBO stopped showing Canelo's next day weight, because his fake excuses about needing to grow into the middleweight division were being exposed. To this day they still dont show his fight day weight because it can later be used against him. Golden boy and Canelo learned their lesson from that and were plenty embarrassed.
     
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  6. Pakkuman

    Pakkuman I'm not hot. I'm just BIG. banned Full Member

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    There was a rehydration clause.
     
  7. OvidsExile

    OvidsExile At a minimum, a huckleberry over your persimmon.

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    His victories over Jacobs and Fielding are deserved, but your point is well made. Every time he steps up to truly elite competition he loses close decisions and is bailed out by corrupt judging. He didn't need his paid judges in the Kovalev fight but I'm not sure that was on the level. I can't think of anyone who's been the beneficiary of so many high profile gift decisions. It seriously distorts the public record. Casuals now and fans in the future will think that Canelo was the equal of greats like Sugar Ray Leonard or possibly even Sugar Ray Robinson, when in reality he's only as good as Nino Benvenuti.
     
  8. IsaL

    IsaL VIP Member Full Member

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    Lmao!! Gtfo Clown! Lol

    Ever heard of the IBF
     
  9. IsaL

    IsaL VIP Member Full Member

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    I call out bullshitters. No one forced nones of Pac's opponents, just like no one forced Canelo's opponents.
     
  10. C.J.

    C.J. Boxings Living Legend revered & respected by all Full Member

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    Ive been in and around boxing longer than that & Ive never seen the corruption as bad as it is now
     
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  11. C.J.

    C.J. Boxings Living Legend revered & respected by all Full Member

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    ROFLMAO There is no bigger purveyor of bull feces than you. just like Floyd before him Ginger will not give any of his opponents in Vegas an even break. That is why he's back to being El Pollo Rojo about fighting GGG in MSG He's afraid to lose his assurance that he's only got to be standing at the final bell & he cannot lose
     
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  12. m.s.

    m.s. Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Yeah and one of Canelo's apponents was too smart for that. You know, the one that was supposedly begging for a big pay day.
     
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  13. Power_tek

    Power_tek Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    It’s not safe to limit the amount of weight a fighter can put on after the weigh in? Er really it’s stopping them from dehydrating themselves prior to the weigh in, it should be mandatory to have a cap on how much you can hydrate to add weight.
    No hydration clause means a fighter can take their weight down to dangerous levels to come in the weight limit then hydrate for the fight.
    Canelo does it to stack the odds in his favour but having a hydration clause is safer than not having one as there’s a limit to how far you can push your weight fluctuation.
     
  14. Power_tek

    Power_tek Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    It can be. But if one fighter is at the upper end of one weight class and another fighter is at the lower end of another weight class, you might think that it favours the heavier fighter but they are draining to make the weight and the lighter fighter is fighting at their prime fighting weight, then it would be more draining on the fighter with the weight advantage. But then again a fighter can be comfortable with hydrating for fights. The thing with catch weight is that it doesn’t necessarily mean that there’s no hydrating involved and even when hydrating is done by both fighters the heavier fighter doesn’t always have the advantage and hydration can still play apart in catch weight fights, but as we all know catch weights are rare as there’s enough weight category's for most fights to get made, and catch weights will never hold relevance to any division because they are catch weights, meaningful fights don’t and won’t happen at catch weight.
     
  15. Ph33rknot

    Ph33rknot Take the risk or lose the chance Full Member

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    A rehydration limit just keeps the fight at the weight class