Ron Lyle V Mike Tyson?

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Who takes it?

  1. Tyson?

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  2. Lyle?

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  1. Charlietf

    Charlietf Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Well. Evander holyfield was a natural 187-190 pounder and he was packed of muscle trained like a bodybuilder and using hormone in order to increment mass and with all it he weighed barelly 209-215 pounds. Ron lyle was a guy that never touched a weight. everything he did was push ups and still he weighed 220 ripped natural pounds. If he would have done what evander did then lyle would be a 235-240 guy easily... Yes.. Ye was naturally stronger with bigger frame
     
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  2. sauhund II

    sauhund II Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Patently false.

    No fighter, no matter how dedicated or skilled or talented will be the same after a close to FOUR year prison stint......end of.

    Numerous trainers including Angelo Dundee, not a Tyson fan whatsoever, stated that Tyson is done even if he comes back, the timing, balance and punch selection including instincts will be gone forever no matter how much training he would do.Fact.

    Tyson looked like shid in all of his comeback fights, missing badly, squaring up , loading up and barely jabbing..against no hopers, backed up by the Hurrican Mc Neally ........ko'ing frozen Bruno who he already waxed means jack.

    That Holyfiled has Tysons number is a total myth, Holyfield was active , PED enhanced and a full time fighter vs Tyson was a part time fighter more concerned with Partying......he spend less then 4 weeks in camp for the first fight, that is not the mind set of a focused fighter who wants to make a mark.....that is the mark of a fighter who is gone and wants to milk his purse to support his crazy life style.

    Without the Tyson fights , Holyfield is 2-5 in his sig fights,, full stop, he lost more than he won on the highest level and was way inconsistant against even ham and eggers......he never ever dominated or was the "Baddestman on the planet" , he simple lost right away while looking lack luster in filler fights

    fact: Holyfields entire rep is made out of beating a washed up Tyson.

    Ali was never the same after his forced exile and he was never in the Can.

    Foreman was never the same as a old man while fighting carefully hand picked opponents.......never in the Can.
     
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  3. Fergy

    Fergy Walking Dead Full Member

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    Lol. Amazing isn't it George. Still, he keeps me entertained so he has his uses.
     
  4. SerbianLoudmouth

    SerbianLoudmouth Overhand right-Suzie Q Full Member

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    37 washed Holyfield with heart issues is a prime?Prime Holyfield is 1989 to 1994 which Tyson ducked and fought Douglas!
     
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  5. SerbianLoudmouth

    SerbianLoudmouth Overhand right-Suzie Q Full Member

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    Same Tyson who went jacked from prison and was caught in Golota fights with using of PEDs?
     
  6. young griffo

    young griffo Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Well maybe Tyson shouldn’t have committed and been convicted of **** and he’d have kept his dumb arse out of jail, yes?

    Holyfields rep was made by having one of the best resumes in Cruiserweight/Heavyweight history. He fought insane competition and has a much deeper resume than Tyson and his nuthuggers could ever dream of. He was already a legend before he fought Tyson and beating Tinkerbell senseless when he was cherry-picked because he was thought to be shot was just icing on the cake and a reality check for Tyson and his worshippers (Holyfield was tougher, braver and better than Tyson ever was).

    This is total excuse making typical of delusional Tyson cheerleaders. Tyson was thought to be the best heavyweight in the world in 1996. He was massively favoured to beat Holyfield with ease. Holyfield had looked like garbage in his two previous fights and was thought totally shot. Ring magazine had tipped Tyson to KO Evander in one. Tyson beat Frank Bruno more easily and more impressively than he did in 1989 and no one thought he looked like crap in that fight in fact everyone thought he was back to his best. Then Holyfield beat that arse... and was on his way to doing it a second time before Tyson bitched out.
     
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  7. SerbianLoudmouth

    SerbianLoudmouth Overhand right-Suzie Q Full Member

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    Iron chin??Lyle had better chin for sure!He survived stronger Shavers and almost beat Foreman!Tyson was staggered by Bruno and Tucker,knocked by Douglas and Holyfield and beaten by bums!No offense but Lyle is bigger,stronger,better chinned and had better stamina than all of them!Tyson power ATG really?
     
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  8. CharlesBurley

    CharlesBurley Well-Known Member banned Full Member

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    Depends if you consider weed a PED I suppose
     
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  9. Richard M Murrieta

    Richard M Murrieta Now Deceased 2/4/25 Full Member

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    Great post.
     
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  10. InMemoryofJakeLamotta

    InMemoryofJakeLamotta I have defeated the great Seamus Full Member

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    Regardless of how Holyfield gained his strength, I doubt that Lyle could overpower him.
     
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  11. InMemoryofJakeLamotta

    InMemoryofJakeLamotta I have defeated the great Seamus Full Member

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    Yeah and Tyson of 96 would still demolish Lyle.
     
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  12. JohnThomas1

    JohnThomas1 VIP Member

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    You really need to learn what "fact" means. You're not the only one in here tho.
     
  13. Charlietf

    Charlietf Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Well.The topic is not what you doubt about. And the key factor is that lyle is bigger puncher than evander, no gym training or roid is going to change this natural department
     
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  14. SerbianLoudmouth

    SerbianLoudmouth Overhand right-Suzie Q Full Member

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    In raping yeah in fighing no!Tyson could be angry but Lyle would kill you and he was in prison for murder not for raping like Tyson!Bugner said that Lyle wanted to kill any man he is fighting!If he came like he did against Foreman Tyson would be over in 4 rounds top!
     
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  15. GOAT Primo Carnera

    GOAT Primo Carnera Member of the PC Fan Club Full Member

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    In 1996 this might be in fact very close. Tyson was just not the fighter of peoples illusions anymore.
    35y old Bruno of his last hurrah? Lyle eventually stopps him too....