If you consider Helenius TKO4 Kownacki a massive upset... don't.

Interesting you listed 168 as better.

 

This, HW has 2 very good fighters AJ and Fury and the rest are either old or just not that good.

 

I'd happily never interact with you again so if you want to make that a reality then it's real simple, don't involve me in your posts from hereon on out. I don't want to click unignore on a thread and catch you being weird about me again.

It'd be my preference for all conversation between us to end here but I'd say be careful with the word 'sicko' going as I'd say it applies a man talking about the body of an underage young man on the internet and not the person who has been largely talking boxing in this thread.

 

Top 5 for top 5 would be comparable no? Both then have a considerable drop off.

 

Is it? I'd say Nelo, Benevidez, Jacobs, Smith, Saunders, Ryder, and Plant is definitely better than what HW has to offer.

It'd probably be the best if GGG and Derevyanchenko move up chasing Canelo, imo.

 

I sincerely hope you are trolling. In terms of talent and exciting potential match ups, welter is the only division that comes close. CW and SMW?!!

 

Bizarre take.

 

That's the ESB way. I can print essays from Boxrec with limited analysis, and get a banging thread. But when I read newspapers from the 30s whilst doing actually research on JHL goes bust. And at this point anything that weighs less than 175lbs on classic flops like a fish out of water.

 

I like Ryder but him beating Smith shows that what's world class there wouldn't be in other divisions. I feel Plant still has a lot to prove as does DJ at the weight. With Golovkin and Dev moving up it def becomes a much better division than the wasteland Degale unified in.

 

Educate yourself.
https://www.boxingforum24.com/threa...200lbs-super-mutants-educate-yourself.643753/

The other 4 are DEFINITELY better than HW. Especially 115. 168 is the closest, but even that's a definite >.