Ezzard Charles V Hasim Rahman?

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  1. Fergy

    Fergy Walking Dead Full Member

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    The version of Rahman, that kod LL
    Against Charles that soundly beat Joe Louis?
    15 rounds. Who gets the win?
     
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  2. Dance84

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    Damn tough one......
     
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  3. Fergy

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    Any idea s how it could play out?
     
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  4. Reinhardt

    Reinhardt Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Well Rahman ain't in the same league of fighter as Charles, but at heavyweight he is at a disadvantage against some bigger fighters. I'll take a prime Ezzard to outbox him and stay out of trouble. But he has to be slick for the distance.
     
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  5. Smokin Bert

    Smokin Bert Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Tough size matchup for Charles. But, gun to my head, I think Charles outboxes Rahman. P4P, Charles was 10 times the fighter Rahman was.
     
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  6. Dance84

    Dance84 Unicorn and seastar land Full Member

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    One can clearly see that charles is the better fighter of the two . although styles

    If the rahman that showed vs Lewis shows up

    Id pick rahman over charles to stop him
     
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  7. George Crowcroft

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    If we're actually quantifying it, take it that Charles is a top 10 P4P staple and that Rahman doesn't sniff top 100, Charles would actually be more than 10 times the fighter, P4P!
     
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  8. Smokin Bert

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    The Rahman that showed up for Lewis I was no different than the Rahman that showed up for Lewis II. Big difference was that Lewis actually took the second fight seriously. And, when he did, it was an annihilation. Nobody bothered with a rubber match after such a one sided destruction.
     
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  9. BitPlayerVesti

    BitPlayerVesti Boxing Drunkie Full Member

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    That doesn't actually follow.

    To illustrate lets take 200 random numbers between 1 and 10000
    1. 4
    2. 9
    3. 15
    4. 25
    5. 74
    6. 165
    7. 174
    8. 219
    9. 290
    10. 328
    11. 454
    12. 576
    13. 599
    14. 637
    15. 679
    16. 689
    17. 711
    18. 843
    19. 926
    20. 1033
    21. 1091
    22. 1105
    23. 1116
    24. 1213
    25. 1256
    26. 1312
    27. 1343
    28. 1353
    29. 1355
    30. 1360
    31. 1389
    32. 1439
    33. 1495
    34. 1539
    35. 1568
    36. 1662
    37. 1682
    38. 1704
    39. 1760
    40. 1792
    41. 1796
    42. 2040
    43. 2077
    44. 2116
    45. 2165
    46. 2213
    47. 2245
    48. 2279
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    50. 2420
    51. 2476
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    53. 2499
    54. 2610
    55. 2660
    56. 2687
    57. 2831
    58. 2965
    59. 2987
    60. 3018
    61. 3042
    62. 3233
    63. 3287
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    66. 3428
    67. 3438
    68. 3475
    69. 3489
    70. 3522
    71. 3549
    72. 3561
    73. 3609
    74. 3883
    75. 3956
    76. 3960
    77. 4048
    78. 4060
    79. 4079
    80. 4082
    81. 4095
    82. 4194
    83. 4223
    84. 4250
    85. 4265
    86. 4298
    87. 4302
    88. 4307
    89. 4319
    90. 4409
    91. 4422
    92. 4488
    93. 4488
    94. 4527
    95. 4625
    96. 4698
    97. 4703
    98. 4726
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    100. 4820
    101. 4841
    102. 4902
    103. 4938
    104. 4954
    105. 4963
    106. 5010
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    108. 5039
    109. 5083
    110. 5295
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    114. 5414
    115. 5472
    116. 5485
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    119. 5518
    120. 5552
    121. 5574
    122. 5595
    123. 5611
    124. 5760
    125. 5877
    126. 6023
    127. 6047
    128. 6152
    129. 6190
    130. 6384
    131. 6401
    132. 6435
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    140. 6767
    141. 6795
    142. 6800
    143. 6827
    144. 6867
    145. 6883
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    176. 8311
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    180. 8742
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    188. 9427
    189. 9510
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    195. 9786
    196. 9822
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    198. 9902
    199. 9945
    200. 10000
    9822 is the fifth highest generated, well inside the top 10, while 2420 is well outside the top 100, yet 9811 is only just over 4 times a bigger number.
     
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  10. Big Ukrainian

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    Exactly. And it'd not like Rahman beat Lewis up - he just caught him with a single punch and knocked him out. If shot, 40 y.o. Holyfield battered Rahman so badly, Charles would definitely have a chance
     
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  11. George Crowcroft

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    I'm lost.

    I have Charles at #4 P4P. Rahman isn't top 40. That, to me, means Charles is more than 10x the fighter P4P than Rahman.

    I'm also quite comfortable in staying that as long as Charles is in the top 10, he's still at least 10 times, since Rahman isn't too 10.
     
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  12. Fergy

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    Your right George, on a p4p basis, Rahman doesn't get a look in.
    Charles had that quality about him that made him such a classy fighter.
    Really there should be no doubt s but it's that damn heavyweight division again that sometimes pisses on class. The actual fight itself, I'd give Charles more chances of winning than a lot of people, I don't read to much in to the size thing
    But, got be cautious with Rahman. He may have been a one hit wonder against Lewis but there was a little more to him than that.
    If Ezzard gets drawn in to a good old toe to toe, then he could be his own worst enemy.
     
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  13. mr. magoo

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    I think Charles at his best outboxes Hasim in one sided fashion to a wide decision
     
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  14. mr. magoo

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    what specifically about Rahman’s style leads you to favor him ?
     
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  15. Dance84

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    Not so much style just size difference

    I don't think charles has the power to keep rahman off where lewis did
     
    Dance84, Mar 12, 2020
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