Clenelo Alvaroid's Best "Wins" All Have An Asterisk...

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  1. IsaL

    IsaL VIP Member Full Member

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    You do realize you have the reputation of a troll, right?

    You don't destroy anyone. You're the type of person who would say something like "Canelo has had title fights with rehydration clauses", while sucking off Pacquiao who won two titles at catchweights.
     
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  2. Ph33rknot

    Ph33rknot Take the risk or lose the chance Full Member

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    You can't condem Canelo and suck off Manny
     
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  3. C.J.

    C.J. Boxings Living Legend revered & respected by all Full Member

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    No one denies the fact Canelo can fight. My beef with him is Instead of using his fighting talent he lets Oscar, The NSAC & Vegas boxing make him their cash cow . He knows every time he climbs in the ring the odds are heavily stacked on his side. In other words he only has to be standing at the final bell to know he will NEVER lose. Like Floyd before him he knows the NSAC have his back both legally & illegally it seems
     
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  4. C.J.

    C.J. Boxings Living Legend revered & respected by all Full Member

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    When did Manny get caught juicing ?? Canelo did with Clenbutrol we all know what that is used for. Same with Floyd & the IV scandal.
     
  5. C.J.

    C.J. Boxings Living Legend revered & respected by all Full Member

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    Abel actually said the fight was close could have gone either way he thought GGG won but wouldnt complain if it went the other way. Please tell the truth
     
  6. Ph33rknot

    Ph33rknot Take the risk or lose the chance Full Member

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    Catch weight king
     
  7. Pakkuman

    Pakkuman I'm not hot. I'm just BIG. banned Full Member

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    Howso?
     
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  8. George Crowcroft

    George Crowcroft He Who Saw The Deep Full Member

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    Did you black out and only read the last page of the thread?

    It's been spelled out why he isn't.
     
  9. ValentinePrince

    ValentinePrince Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I give Alvarez credit for his wins against Kovalev and Jacobs, but he lost both of his Golovkin fights, the Trout fight was close and the Lara fight was VERY close (I had it a draw).

    The problem with Canelo is just the ridiculous cards he keeps getting. He doesn't have a lot of really definitive wins against top guys. Even the scoring of the Cotto fight was way too wide, despite being a deserved victory overall.
     
  10. shadow111

    shadow111 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Why is it a problem for a fighter to have close fights with high level opponents? Why does he need to have so-called definitive wins against top guys to be great? If you eek out a win over a top level guy, that's enough for you to cement yourself as a top level fighter. The higher level the opposition the closer and more controversial you should expect fights to be. Frankly I thought the Trout win was definitive. He knocked him down and won that fight pretty clearly in my estimation. I mean it was relatively close but Canelo certainly proved he was the better fighter there. Lara was even closer than Trout but Lara was fighting extremely defensive, he was obviously worried about getting hit with a big shot. His win over Jacobs was definitive, so was his win over Kovalev. He's had plenty of definitive results, he stopped Liam Smith, Amir Khan, James Kirkland in as definitive fashion possible. No one else has come close to stopping Beefy. That says something. It says that Canelo is a special special fighter to be able to hurt Beefy to the body like that.

    The GGG fights, he beat GGG twice. You can say he didn't, that's your opinion but he absolutely schooled him the first time, put on an outboxing clinic, caught him with big shots after setting traps made GGG look like an amateur like a GGG was a cat chasing a mouse on a string. The 2nd time whooped his ass Mexican Style. I don't see how people seriously think GGG won, and even if you think GGG deserved to win, still you can't deny how well Canelo fought both times, causing GGG all kinds of problems.

    The scoring of Cotto wasn't too wide. Canelo EASILY beat Cotto, way more decisively than Mayweather beat Cotto. Mayweather struggled with Cotto a lot more than Canelo did. Granted Cotto was younger when he fought Mayweather but still. Cotto didn't win more than a couple rounds vs Canelo. There seems to be a real perception problem with Canelo. Some boxing fans for whatever reason just don't credit Canelo appropriately and don't allow themselves to see what the judges see.
     
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  11. Pakkuman

    Pakkuman I'm not hot. I'm just BIG. banned Full Member

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    No, I don't have a reputation as a troll. You, on the other hand, are a despised individual here. Most likely like you are in real life.

    :deal:
     
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  12. Clinton

    Clinton Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I agree with this whole post. Nicely put
     
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  13. IsaL

    IsaL VIP Member Full Member

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    Yes the truth...

    The truth is Abel Sanchez said immediately after the fight that Canelo deserved the win.

    During the fight going into round 8 or 9 he told Golovkin they were losing.

    In post fight interviews he said Canelo won by 1 or 2 rounds.

    It was later that he changed his tune a bit to appease GGG and his rabid fans I'm sure.
     
  14. Richmondpete

    Richmondpete Real fighters do road work Full Member

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    lie to yourself when reality doesn't align with what you wished happened. It's fullproof
     
  15. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    Thanks
     
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