All-Time Greatest P4P - One Punch KO power

PSI is the ultimate measure of raw power

For PSI generation in boxing

• Punch Speed
• Height

Longer Reach drops speed, but improves connect ratio (serves a Tactical Puncher who uses Range Violation best example G-Man)


Olivares, Hamed, Valero, Trinidad, Boone, Beterbiev, Tyson, Marciano, Foreman, Shavers are not very high on this list, because they are either tactical punchers or simply too heavy P4P to make it on this P4P list. As of tactical punchers each had his own tactic that achieved the KO with less resources (less PSI p4p).

Julian Jackson is an exception as being both high in Raw KO power & a Tactical Puncher (Ambush style), making him the best Puncher of all time P4P, he made an appearance in this list as a raw power puncher

Raw power vs Effective Punch
As of quantifying a punch quality, its much harder...a Punch evaluation, will have to measure the % of impact achieved (a dark rabbit hole), but it can be estimated via concussions, the mind of a human starts getting scrambled at 300 TBI, if the boxer is off balance something as light as 300 PSI can cause a flash knockdown, then going up to 600 TBI a thick legged short male (La Motta or Tua) can be completely out on his feet. Anything over 600 PSI no longer harms the body because its already knocked out. Most boxers can easily produce 800 psi (even average joe can do it), the problem is how can they deliver it vs a human that is not bolted down & has a soft surface (hard even vs an Average Joe) this takes away ~30% of impact based on the common KO. With the difficulty of achieving the PSI needed for the KO, puncher-boxers evolved in two directions, RAW Power % increase to assure a KO, this heavily influenced by tactical practices of the punchers to ensure the highest % of impact (could be as raw as long reach to violate range or sophisticated boxing tactics that can abbreviate range), range being one problem a puncher has to control, the second is timing...the best KO punches can be achieved by well timed precise counter punches using modest PSI resources. The thread covers raw power, so one element of punching is covered...Raw power is equivalent to any raw metric, it only works when a skilled boxer uses it. Otherwise every teen with speed/height will be able to KO world champions, but obviously raw power is just one element of being a successful puncher.

For Tactics lots of boxers to choose from, opinions can vary, some favor Shavers-Boone because they dropped big names...which makes sense, some favor dominant champions who win by power...another subject as its not Raw Power & surely guys like Boone-Shavers just can't make it on a P4P list based on their weight alone.

 

Must say you have a misleading username pal! Do research on TBI threshold & live-up to your name!

 

Valuev can definitely limit Wilder power 1350psi (best punch), not because he will take that power in his skull. He is too rangy & became a world champion using that range. Achieving 50% impact from Wilder best punch (very hard to have both) is the way to KO Valuev, this is very hard, in reality Deontay Wilder will not be able to KO Valuev (unless Deontay Wilder develops advanced puncher-tactics)

McCall, Cobb & Chuvalo vs Deontay Wilder, should go something like Mayroga vs Trinidad. The range violation alone, will make it unfair, Deontay WIlder is much rangier, faster than anybody those shorter tough-boxers faced.

 

Also Intimidation

• Some of Tyson opponents developed fear, impressive considering the fearless mindset of boxers.
• Most came believing that Tyson hits harder than them (False belief)

Irony is that Mike Tyson raw KO power is below-average for Heavyweights, but his skills were so advanced...That he lived up to his famous "How dare these boxers challenge me with their primitive skills? It makes me angry. They're just as good as dead"

Tyson Skills allowed him to accumulate a high TBI damage, without wasting his PSI.

Can a 5'10" modern Welter intimidate Heavyweights & get into range without getting caught? Any Welter who can do that, will be able to KO Heavyweights.

 

Zarate-Saddler is 99% of Inoue P4P, while Zarate has a slightly higher PSI, he is lower P4P. Simply 108 vs 115

The rest are skilled boxers, many with raw PSI below average teens in their weight-class.

If you have doubts, rent a consistent PSI machine (regardless of numeric value). Train fit lanky teens to hit the machine (it takes one day only), then see the teen score higher than (shorter) world champions of the exact same weight. Raw power is just one element, lots of 5'08" teen amateurs hit harder than a 5'05" world champion of equal weight.

Weight factor is not a factor! (small increase with hay-makers & more loss of power due to loss of speed)
5'10" 210lbs hits as hard as 5'10" 140lbs, in average lighter boxers can score higher more often, mainly due to the speed decrease with extra weight. Boxing weight-class divisions are really default height-class divisions, that is why the big irrational gap existed from 175lbs to Heavyweight when boxers height average was shorter. When better skilled Tall boxers started coming in the Cruiser range, 190 & eventually 200 made sense.

 

Pacman even at Welter can't score any higher than Inoue, on PSI, they will have the same PSI score today

Raw Power is just that, Height & Speed. Both fought as low as 108lbs, same height, same Raw power.

If Raw power translated into Championship, then 1000s of fast-unskilled teens will become immediate KO artists, but the real skill is the art of delivering the punch, having Raw KO power is one of component. (read previous posts if you have time)

 

Wilde was a bit shorter than Segura (5'03"), very powerful for his time. Probably amazing fans with his 750psi punches at that time, they probably didn't expect such a thin small man to create that much power, so his power was legendary for his time.

Bob Fitz is not a good case for P4P because of his height, at his height he could have punched as hard as Artur Beterbiev today

Sheppard is more than likely still mugging people till this day...At 5'11" he was definitely not high on raw power...When boxers say they felt the power (that means they were with a rough puncher who kept coming -without causing the less painful TBI-, High-PSI doesn't allow any feelings), most physically grueling fights are caused by accumulated damage from punches that don't shut-down the CNS (which allows the damage to continue).