Earnie Shavers V Joe Louis?

When I lived in Liverpool in the late 90s, Ernie Shavers was working on the door at Yates Wine bar.

I wish I had got my photo taken with him at the time, but I was too easily distracted back then.

 

You'd have to pick Louis however he's not fighting Tony Galento. If Shavers nails him, Louis will not recover. He could not recover vs Schmeling, no way he's taking Shavers right hand. Shavers had under rated skills and hand speed. An upset can happen.

 

I would say that is quite an assumption.

The fact is that Louis was never put away with a single lucky punch, and it was not for want of him giving people the chance to try.

 

I would not. Lots of guy landed on Louis, too easily I say. We are taking about Shavers here, if he landed a good one, Joe's in trouble.

The first right hand that Schemlign landed, essentially put Louis away as he could not shake off the blow. Shavers hit a lot harder than Schmeling.

 

If punchers were landing on Louis easily, and he was not getting stopped, that rather suggests that he wouldn't be in trouble if Shavers hit him.

You can't really make a statement like that.

The obvious reason Louis couldn't shake of the blow, is because Schmeling landed the same blow, literally dozens more times.

If it had been a fluke that Schmeling was unable to replicate, then I imagine that he would have recovered eventually.

 

Charlie is right. Holmes was a new grandpa and nearly 2 years out of the ring when he fought Mike, Mike himself said he never could have beat prime Holmes. Smartest thing he ever said.

 

Aside from the fact that anyone can beat anyone in bizarre circumstances, I cannot believe that people are debating this match-up, I loved Shavers for his power but he is so overrated here. Watch the Ellis fight to see what would happen, Joe would finish him when he hurt him and early.

 

Ellis? You mean the guy who ate that massive Shavers uppercut and went into a coma? Huh?

 

Janitor many smaller men and clumsy big men landed on Louis, flooring him. So could Shavers. Unless you think Schmeling hit harder than Shavers, Joe's in trouble if Shavers lands a good one. Pretty much everyone is in trouble is Shavers lands a good one. I think that is a fair statement.

Louis could not recover from the first knockdown from Schmeling, its on film to see.

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It doesn't make any sense though... Why did boxing evolve in 30 years between 1940 and 1970, but then suddenly reached peak and went back? It's not like 1940s are the beginning of this sport, it was already over 50 years old.

 

yep, that's the one

 

Cool, how many of then stopped Louis?

Louis was dropped by more powerful punchers than Schmeling and he wasn't in trouble.

Cool, but that's because Schmeling timed him again and again. Shavers didn't have Max right hand, he wouldn't be able to catch him so many times.

 

Me too, I think @mattdonnellon might have misrepresented/misworded his original post on the subject.