1977 Jimmy Young vs 1971 Joe Frazier

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  1. InMemoryofJakeLamotta

    InMemoryofJakeLamotta I have defeated the great Seamus Full Member

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    Young beat the man who beat the man but could Young do what Foreman did and beat Frazier? Also, why did this fight not take place?
     
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  2. Charlietf

    Charlietf Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Frazier was a stylistical nightmare for Holmes and young he kicked their asses in every sparring session.he did not need being in his prime to beat young
     
  3. young griffo

    young griffo Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Light punching cutie’s are meat for Frazier.

    Young was uber durable but he couldn’t keep pace with an animal like peak Frazier. He’d be awkward and score early but Joe would take over mid rounds and beat the stuffing out of him for a wide UD or possibly late stoppage. You need more than some movement and tricky sucker moves to beat a relentless talent (and Frazier was a huge talent) like Joe.

    Different levels of fighter completely in my view.
     
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  4. The Morlocks

    The Morlocks Boxing Junkie Full Member

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  5. Glass City Cobra

    Glass City Cobra H2H Burger King

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    Frazier is the scissors to young's paper. He chips away at him and rips him apart with relentless pressure. Even if young tries to be overly defensive and cover up, frazier would win rounds on activity.

    Young did good against the big sluggers because they didn't pace themselves well and were too eager to blast him out with one big hit or combination. Boxers struggled with him because he forced them to lead and it became a slow paced chess match which he was also great at. But pressure fighting takes him out of his comfort zone, Young liked to be in control and fight at his own pace.
     
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  6. mr. magoo

    mr. magoo VIP Member Full Member

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    Frazier was one of the best at chasing down boxers.
     
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  7. Fergy

    Fergy Walking Dead Full Member

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    Young is beaten down, bit by bit. Frazier would get right in there attacking from the start.
    Young would do his best to slow down Joe but that's like stopping a bull on the war path.
    I can see Joe finally dropping Young, with the famed left Hook, in around the tenth. Game over.
     
  8. Titan1

    Titan1 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Joe wears Jimmy down for that 11th round kayo.
     
  9. Richard M Murrieta

    Richard M Murrieta Now Deceased 2/4/25 Full Member

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    Prime Joe Frazier 1971, the night of March 8 1871, in Madison Square Garden, Arthur Mercante as referee, 15 rounds for the World Heavyweight Title. His challenger Prime Jimmy Young of 1977. I see Joe putting an enormous amount of pressure on Jimmy, bobbing and weaving, firing that very wicked left hook to the body. Young has a very distressed look on his face as he tries his rendition of Rope A Dope, as he did in round 8 against George Foreman. Joe does not buy it, bring up his left hook to the head that sends Jimmy sprawling to the canvas. After taking the mandatory 8 count from Mercante, Young ties up Joe, the bell sounds, ending round 1. Joe looks from his corner hitting his gloves together, Frazier then charges at Young and doubles his left to the body and again unloads his left hook with full force and Jimmy hits the canvas, his eyes staring at the ring lights above. Mercante waves the fight over in round 2. Arthur would later remark, This Is The Most Devastating Knockout I Have Ever Refereed, The Other One Was, On June 20 1960,When Floyd Patterson Knocked Out Ingemar Johansson In The 6Th Round To Regain The Title, That Was Also In New York.
     
  10. joebeadg

    joebeadg Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Frazier knocks down Young in rd 1 and 2? Young who went 22 rds with Lyle, 12 with foreman , drew with shavers, went 4 with prime cooney, almost 2 rds blind???? I don't think so. I do think Frazier is the hardest kind of fighter for Young to deal with, but I'd give Jimmy a good chance to win.
     
  11. Rope-a-Dope

    Rope-a-Dope Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Frazier stalks and eventually catches his prey late.
     
  12. Richard M Murrieta

    Richard M Murrieta Now Deceased 2/4/25 Full Member

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    I respect your opinion, I ask you to please respect mine, you do not know me to call me blind, if you are referring to me. Please refrain from your insults, I do not think it is appropriate, Thank you.
     
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  13. InMemoryofJakeLamotta

    InMemoryofJakeLamotta I have defeated the great Seamus Full Member

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    I think he was referring to the fact that Frazier was blind or nearly blind in one eye.
     
  14. joebeadg

    joebeadg Well-Known Member Full Member

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    No no! LOL I was referring to the fact that Young was basically blind, well, in one eye anyways in rd 3 and 4 against cooney. LOL If I insult you, you'll know! LOL I agree with you that Frazier is the worst type of opponent for Jimmy. But just because of that people short change him about his ability to win such a fight. He wasn't a guy who just had a few cute moves, he took that, and his other attributes to a whole other level. Lyle was all over Ali in their fight while Young made Lyle his ***** in two fights. I know Lyle and Frazier are different fighters, more pressure with Joe, but Jimmy was a very capable boxer
     
  15. swagdelfadeel

    swagdelfadeel Obsessed with Boxing

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    I believe he was referring to Young in his fight with Cooney being virtually blind.
     
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