Dubois Vs Joyce / Whyte Vs Povetkin unlikely to go ahead

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  1. Jurgen

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    You should be a consultant for Andy Ruiz mate
     
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  2. Holler

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    The whole question of live broadcast is likely to be a controversial one. From a selfish point of view it would be nice to see some fights and have something to take our minds off things. However it's complex...

    Put these on PPV and people will group together and break social distancing isolation, either in pubs (if open) or in pubs (if illegally open) or in mates homes. So it could be seen as increasing viral spread into homes which would otherwise be untouched.

    May also be a question of how many people still need to come together to get the fight on. Sure, there's no crowd, but there's OB unit trucks which need to be manned, producers, directors, officials from Boxing governing bodies, etc etc. Do you force these people to come in? If they refuse do you sack them? Then do you have journalists covering it? People travelling from all over, maybe from regions which are worse hit, or maybe taking the virus back to places that were relatively ok?

    What happens if a boxer gets CV in the run-up?

    Who is going to insure this?
     
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  3. CutThroatFade

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  4. Unforgiven

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    Yeah, but the economy could suffer so bad from that that we'll all die of poverty anyway.
     
  5. Twentyman

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    Not your best poem mate, you didn’t even rhyme any of it.
     
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  6. Holler

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    I'm a consultant to fat boxers, only the fat ones mind.

    Cheapskate turned my proposal down. :(
     
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  7. Holler

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    Just for you then and maybe @Jurgen will like this one too...

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  8. nurological

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    Haha business must be booming for you then.

    Seriously though, do you work in some sort of medical capacity?
     
  9. Unforgiven

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    People die every day from things that "we may have" be able to save.
    I don't think we should stop and stall the entire society and the economy because people are dying from a virus.
    But I guess most people think we should.

    Let's see how society deals with 1/2 million dying people when we have 10 or 20 million unemployed through all this shutting things down then.
    If it carries on like this, all pubs, restaurants, cafes, cinemas, big shops will be closed, more offices will be closed, transport will be restricted. Gyms, hairdressers, schools, markets will be closed. Money will stop circulating. Whole industries will be effected.

    I'm pretty sure people will see sense soon and realize they can't stall the economy and normal life in an effort to stall the virus and hope to win that way.
     
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  10. Twentyman

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    Wonder what the indirect mortality rate will be from the resulting economic crash we’re inevitably going to have. Feel like there’s a bit of a ‘not seeing the woods for the trees’ scenario here. I find it a little patronising people suggesting we’re being a ignorant of the dangers of this virus. Yes, it’s dangerous, particularly if you have underlying health issues, but so can other viruses. I accept that this could or does have a higher mortality rate than say the flu for example....but economic impact is just going to be horrendous, for many years. The impact on ordinary people through cuts to public services...we’ve created global panic. They’ll save lives no doubt with how they’re handling it right now...but it will cost a lot lot more over the next 10 years+.
     
  11. Twentyman

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    Beat me to it.
     
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  12. TonyHayers

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    I think it’s pretty patronising to say things like ‘people die all the time’ and ‘there are other viruses’ as though that’s news to anyone.

    The ultimate question here is what is going to cause the greater impact; shutting business down for somewhere in the region of twenty weeks or letting the virus go largely unchecked. It appears the latter has been seen as the more serious.
     
  13. Twentyman

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    Here’s a comparison, during WW2 after we’d cracked the code enigma code, Churchill knew that Coventry was going to get flattened by a blitz. Preventing the blitz would mean that we would save some lives and a city, however, it would also mean that the Germans would know we’d cracked the code...the choice was made that they let it happen, but in the long run they saved many millions of lives by cutting the war short.

    It’s harsh but it’s a matter of weighing up 2 evils.
     
  14. Unforgiven

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    Yeah, it appears the government have seen it that way.
    Most people can't survive twenty weeks of shut downs, the country can't survive it in any real way.
    The privileged people might not mind (and that includes the political classes, of course), but the masses will suffer and violent anarchy will ensue.
     
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  15. Holler

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    Economic cost is there whichever course is taken. This is likely to see the biggest reshaping of the economy in our lifetimes, at least since the invention of the microchip. However, as a thought experiment, imagine if no controls are imposed and the chips fall where they may?

    We know the virus is highly communicable. Available data so far says nearly 15% need hospital care. Have you considered what happens to the economy when, 15% of the entire workforce requires hospital treatment in one short period? Many of those people will die of course. There won't be sufficient hospital beds, certainly not enough respirators or ICU staff.

    A lot of people will be experiencing extreme levels of grief and anger in a short period of time. There could be significant civil unrest, which in turn could lead to severe economic consequences. If people start burning things for instance, like the hospital that left their parent or child to die a horrible death in a corridor?

    To pick another outcome, if there's a second wave which is deadlier than the first, then letting the virus have free reign now would leave society defenceless. Whereas one potential good from this is that we'll become better able to meet similar and far worse threats in the future. It could be that in ten or twenty years time the Coronavirus is hailed as the moment which saved humanity.

    There's no easy answers here. But leaving economics aside I do believe that a society which doesn't act to save people's lives isn't much of a society at all.
     
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