Julio Cesar Chavez - Ring Interview 'Best I've faced' (March, 17th 2020)

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  1. juppity

    juppity Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Chavez Sr was always brutally honest in his assessment of Chavez Jr.
    And the same here . The Taylor fight was when he was the peak of his
    powers and the winner of there bout was for arguably the best P4P fighter at
    the time . So no argument here with Chavez Sr answers.
     
  2. Saad54

    Saad54 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    First to crack Chavez's heretofire impenetrable jaw. Dropped him wiith a single right hand in the first fight, staggered him with a single right hand in the second fight.

    Tzyu simply mopped up an empty shell of Chavez six years later.

    Julio himseIf acknowledges Rosario and Randall were the hardest punchers he faced.

    If the truth is laughable go ahead and laugh.
     
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  3. mark ant

    mark ant Canelo was never athletic Full Member

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    Taylor was winning that fight.
     
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  4. mark ant

    mark ant Canelo was never athletic Full Member

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    Camacho didn`t do a thing against Chavez, he was completely outclassed.
     
  5. Mario040481

    Mario040481 Member Full Member

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    Unless you're referencing prior threads I have not seen anyone in this one here saying they would straight up take Chavez to win over Mayweather. If I have missed it prior to the comment I quoted than I apologize. I am not a proponent of "fight math" (Fighter A beat Fighter B, Fighter B beat Fighter C, Fighter A therefore can beat Fighter C too) but, as I said earlier, if Castillo, JCC's chief sparring partner for four yrs arguably beat Mayweather*, I think it would be foolish to act as though it's a foregone conclusion JCC would be out of his depth, let alone wouldn't have a fair chance to win.

    * Maybe you will discount this, but it cannot be discounted that many supposed impartial viewers felt and still feel that way. Although I obviously must concede that the only 3 impartial viewers who actually matter did not see it that way
     
  6. Seamus

    Seamus Proud Kulak Full Member

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    Taylor was winning the battles.

    Julio was winning the war.
     
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  7. Mario040481

    Mario040481 Member Full Member

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    An example of one guy winning the sporting competition while losing the physical fight, meaning getting his as$ kicked, not the actual "W" in the win column
     
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  8. Fury's Love Handles

    Fury's Love Handles Mrkoolkevin Full Member

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    Good post. The Taylor pick probably seems suspect to some because a lot of people forget/don't realize how Taylor thoroughly outboxed Chavez for the vast majority of the fight and landed a ton of flush, sharp punches.
     
  9. JohnThomas1

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    If Chavez said it was KT 100% you would be disputing his opinion because he was old and shot etc etc. I'm not sure if it's the Rusky angle of wiping out two hugely hyped Americans but it's one big axe getting ground. It's strange because on 99% of things you are completely on top of.

    Getting technical Randall's KD was not an overly big one and JC was up at 3.

    Chavez at the time when things were fresh said -"He never hurt me. How could he have won the fight? The knockdown surprised me but you can't judge a fight by one fall. I'm very upset with Richard Steele." -Julio Cesar Chavez

    Chavez was well past his best even at this point.

    2 and 4 years later against a further declined Chavez a peak De La Hoya had to settle with stopping him on his feet - twice. Oscar is often mentioned by opponents as being a huge puncher in those earlier days.

    When he fought KT Chavez had still only been knocked down once despite facing Taylor, Oscar twice, Lopez and Gamache. Over the hill or not Kostya dropped him with a single punch in an early round and he was in way worse trouble than the Randall KD. Sure he was old but he was still hard to drop obviously and still good durability. KT said it wasn't an overly hard punch so it was hardly his best bomb either. He spent most of the fight getting his nuts crushed truth be told it's surprising he held up.

    Frankie was a very good fighter and sure he was a heckuva puncher, very underrated. It's not even overly about that.

    Here's Livingstone Bramble who fought peak Rosario and Kostya as well as Mancini, McGirt, Mayweather, Murray, Brazier, Pendleton and Crawley among others -

    BEST DEFENSE
    Kostya Tszyu: That would have to be Kostya Tszyu. He was very hard to hit. He punches real hard and he kind of pulls back when you come at him but you couldn’t charge him because he had so much power, so you had to be careful how you go into him.

    BEST PUNCHER
    Tszyu: There’s nobody I’ve been in the ring with that hits as hard as Tszyu. Roger (Mayweather) punched hard but, if you look at the tape, Roger hit me behind the ear. It wasn’t a legitimate, correct punch. I can’t give it to him. I don’t know if it was because of how old I was or where I was at in my career but Kostya Tszyu was a hard puncher. The guy stayed focused. He knew where to hit and he knew when to hit. When he hit me, the first shot to the kidney, I dropped. My kidney shut off. There was nobody who hit me and gave me something to think about…he did. When he hit me, I said to myself, ‘Man, I’ve got a wife and kids. This guy’s not killing me.’ I thought about my family in the ring. Kostya hit like a mule. You couldn’t take two good shots from Kostya Tszyu because you’d be totally done.

    BEST OVERALL
    Tszyu: Only a couple of guys I learned something from. I learned something from Roger Mayweather. He was very strong. I would think Kostya Tszyu. I think it was his power. He was a very difficult guy to fight.

    He'd know because he fought them and felt the punches right?

    These things can be a little bit of a lottery as much as i love them.

     
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  10. Mod-Mania

    Mod-Mania Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Taylor was not outboxing Chavez, he was outworking him.
     
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  11. Sangria

    Sangria You bleed like Mylee Full Member

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    So Camacho's machismo didn't light a fire under JCC's ass? It was Camacho's first loss not counting Haugen's **** test. Chavez dismantled an undefeated Camacho. A highly hyped fight that would've been a SuperFight a a couple years earlier.
     
  12. CharlesBurley

    CharlesBurley Well-Known Member banned Full Member

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    You're now allowing for his sense of self. He's giving loads of credit to fighters who he beat (for the most part) over fighters who beat him. The best he fought was supposedly the guy he beat and not the guy who completely outboxed him

    Taylor was very good but not as skillful as Whitaker due to the fact he left his chin out to dry.
     
  13. mark ant

    mark ant Canelo was never athletic Full Member

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    Haugen v Camacho was very close as was their rematch.
     
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  14. mark ant

    mark ant Canelo was never athletic Full Member

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    Taylor was 2 seconds away from beating Chavez after outboxing him for most of the fight.
     
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  15. mark ant

    mark ant Canelo was never athletic Full Member

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    Taylor was better than Chavez on the night and was beating him to the punch in a lot of their exchanges.
     
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