Joe Louis vs David Tua

Louis played with Galento and completely dominated him. If that's your sword here, then Tua has no chance.

Louis is capable of doing that as well. He has much longer reach and is much taller than Tua, outboxing him would be easy for him. Not to mention that Louis has enough power to make Tua vary.

Ike fight showed that you can smother Tua and fight him head to head and you won't be knocked out. There is no way that Ike is better puncher than Louis and Louis is far better inside fighter.

How about Byrd? What magical way to beat unbeatable Tua he showed to us?

 

What's so funny?

 

Of course he can? He has ATG jab and he could move when he decided to. Look at Max Baer fight, Louis kept him aways with his jab and countered to death. And Baer is much bigger than Tua.

He also lost to Byrd and should have lost to Rahman.
Ike doesn't hit nearly as hard as Max Baer and doesn't fight like him. Why do you even compare them?

 

Max Baer is horribly overrated. Especially in the Louis fight. He rushed in with one hurrah, failed and did nothing anymore. Baers resume is what happens when a HW with some chin is put against 190CWs.

Baer is bigger than Tua? Hits harder than Ibeabuchi? What are you talking about?

Byrd boxed it out with the likes of Vitali, Wlad, even at old age went tons of rounds with Wlad and young prime Povetkin. Baer wouldn´t win a single round against Byrd. Rahman got stopped late and had two other rounds to go against a puncher who carried power late.

Btw, Rahman would KO Baer as well. He was just crap. A bigger man in an era of CWs. Put Baer in the 90s and he´d get the crap beaten out of him.

 

Yeah, most likely. Tua fought Lewis to last distance, not to win the fight. As I said, there is no reason to believe that Ike is ATG puncher.

Max Baer would likely got KOed by Lewis because he would force the fight, not because he had worse chin.
Uzcudun fought all of the best punchers of his era and he was stopped only once by Louis in his last fight. He wasn't small either, consistently fought at over 200 lbs.
Godoy was pressure fighter who took huge punishment from Louis but never stopped going forward (something Tua didn't try against Louis). He also was very smothering and his extremely low crouch would definitely confuse Lewis for a while. Another guy who wasn't small at all.

 

Cool, if you think that everyone sucked back then, then there ie no reason to debate about that.

 

Never seen him fight like Lewis against Tua, he didn't have the legs or huge size advantage either to pull it off

We cant gloss over Louis getting hurt an dropped by him

Legs, movement, angles

But is he robust enough to comeback to take and give enough like Ike ??? That's where they differ, Louis is the better puncher, don't know about heavier puncher, but toughness, nope, Louis can be broken down and stopped like Schmelling proved

 

Max Baer would get KOd. Uzcudun would get KOd. Godoy would get stopped. You´d better stop pretending shyte, comparing the durability going against Lennox, Ike and others. Making them Tua-durable is laughable. Baer was not bigger than Tua, and did not hit harder than Ibeabuchi. Got 77% ko-ratio in KOs/wins fighting men 10-20lb smaller than him!
You know it. Thats why you

won´t debate anymore. One thing for sure: Max Baer sucked.

As I said. Tua would be by far the most durable guy Louis would face. And he´s not swinging like Galento.

 

Ibeabuchi was a muscular 235-240 guy with a solid chin a lot stronger than 200 pounder Louis. Your forgot to mention it curiously

 

Surely Ike busts up Louis, I just cant see him being big enough or tough enough. Ike fought 2 fighters that for me proved he was seriously legit, Tua head on, and the reverse in a slickster in Byrd where he had to figure the high iq Byrd out, he passed both. He had it in him to turn the division upside down if he wasn't mad as **** imo mate

 

He showed enough legs against Max Baer for example. You don't have to be large to beat Tua.

Anybody can be dropped by someone who hits as hard as Galento. Louis was hurt so much that he put Tony on his ass seconds later.

So now you don't need size and strength? Louis didn't lack legs or angles, he's much better boxer than Tua.

I don't know and I doubt Louis would use the same strategy as Ike. Still, Schmeling outboxed Louis and countered him. That's not somethinf Tua would do. Nobody beat prime Louis trying to slug with him and he fought many punchers, some of them bigger than Tua.

 

That's your opinion, not a fact. Facts says all of them were exremely durable.

He was much taller, much longer and he fought at over 220 lbs comfortably.

Your opinion backed up with nothing.

Your opinion backed up with nothing.

 

Yes he was. He was also worse boxer than Louis and he's good as good puncher. As I said, Louis wouldn't likely use Ike strategy to beat Tua and he wouldn't need to. Byrd did just fine being similar size to Louis.

 

Name the bigger punchers than Tua, bare in mind that Tua is way heavier than anyone Louis would've fought who were capable or dangerous and hes regarded as a big puncher against much bigger men than Louis time. He would be by far Louis most dangerous opponent, maybe not the most complete but he could take Louis head off, where as Tua has been in with better h2h fighters or fighter at least and gone 12, Joe could be stopped

 

Hes just gave you his ko ratio lol, what more can the man do

Again, whos more durable than Tua that Louis fought ? Name them