What happens to a prospect boxer after they lose a fight to a journeyman ?

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  1. WillieWild

    WillieWild Member banned Full Member

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    I notice many of them have a hard time finding fights if it happens to them early in their career why is that ?
     
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    Ph33rknot Take the risk or lose the chance Full Member

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    You look for another fight and try to get back on track but is a huge blow
     
  3. WillieWild

    WillieWild Member banned Full Member

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    Why is it a huge blow ?
     
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    Ph33rknot Take the risk or lose the chance Full Member

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    Ego and momentum
     
  5. Oddone

    Oddone Bermane Stiverne's life coach. Full Member

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    It shows you what they are made of honestly. Bernard Hopkins lost his very first fight in the professional ranks.
     
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    roughdiamond Ridin' the rails... Full Member

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    Before: take it on the chin (literally lol), reflect and improve, come back fighting hard with some lessons learned. If you lost again like that, it might just be your level.

    Now: blame your trainer and ditch him immediately, take a year off to mope, switch teams like a hypebeast switches new trainers and never see past your flaws. Be surprised when the same flaws are exposed again as you had rationalized them away.

    Obvious generalization I know, but this has become a worrying trend lately, at even the highest level.
     
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    Cafe Sitzpinkler Full Member

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    The way I see it some prospects just lose because it wasn't their night or they fought the wrong opponent - with that kind of loss, they can bounce back pretty easily.

    For those who underachieve or struggle after a loss. I think that's due to either mental reasons (e.g. fighter is very egotistical and without the confidence he's no longer the same fighter) or a huge flaw was exposed in their game.
     
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    Eel87 Active Member Full Member

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    So did donaire and Marquez I think. Maybe Arguello too. Monzon lost a few early fights.
     
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    22JM Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Take a look at Ricardo Williams and Francisco bojado.
     
  10. covetousjuice

    covetousjuice Putin did nothing wrong

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    Usually indicates they just weren’t that good.

    Then what can they do? Not much. Tends to kill their spirits and ambitions.
     
  11. BigBone

    BigBone Boxing Addict Full Member

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    If you have an influential promoter such as Bob Arum, you might get an instant, undeserved title shot right after you lose to a 41-12-2 guy, without ever earning it in the pro ring.
     
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    macademics Active Member Full Member

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    Make them fight a couple of novices and get them moving back up in levels in terms of opponents again.
     
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    destruction Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Keep on building, increasing the level of opposition

    Sometimes there is a reason for the loss which isnt related to them not being good enough to make it. For example, when David Haye lost to Carl Thompson. He punched himself out, not realising what an experienced and durable fighter Carl was. He went onto become undisputed CW champion.
     
  14. Eggman

    Eggman "The cream of the crop! Nobody does it better! Full Member

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    Depends on the fighters financial backing, hype, any contracts signed prior to going pro.

    sometimes having a low profile with no huge backing can help if a prospect takes a loss. Back to the drawing board and working back up the rankings. Monzon, Dwight qawi, Hopkins.

    if you have huge expectations, take a loss, suddenly you’re in the wilderness. The promoter doesn’t want to know, your financial back is pulled and You can fight your way back for chump change or quit. See possibly tommy stalker
     
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    LoadedGlove Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Much depends on how high profile the prospect is and what stage he's at when he loses. The normal course for the Manager is to get the lad a couple of easy ones then go for a re-match with the guy who beat him.
    The other factor is the nature of the defeat. A close points loss and people will say " Could have gone either way ", while a KO or a bad beating can mean it's a very tough road back. Look at Adam Etches after he got dismantled by Sergey Khomitsky or Marcus Morrison after Jason Welborn beat him up. Both lads were basically ruined.