TYSON FURY VS THE GREATS H2H. WHAT I THINK

Foreman was as one dimensional as they come. Probably loses every round.

 

Holyfield not a hope. Louis and Tyson too small. Holmes probably and Lewis would be favourite.

 

Exactly, I LIKE Fury and in his last few fights he has improved, but c'mon he's only had 3 or 4 fights against top fighters from a severely weaker overall DIVISION (S-HW), and Skill.

 

Fury beat Wilder with two quite diverse strategies. Whatever you think of Wilder, Fury handled him and showed us a lot, in terms of how he could deal with a big and dangerous opponent; both defensively and offensively.

I wouldn't disagree that Wilder's toolbox contained virtually nothing inside of it, of any use. But the toolbox itself was very heavy, at least, and he knew how to throw that.

Fury gets beaten by the better boxers; the Ali, Holmes an Lewis types. Frazier can close the distance and get inside, in my opinion. Same for Mike Tyson. But, it's not easy for any of them.

I think Foreman is one of the guys, who's going to have the harder night, because Fury could well handle a guy, who's initiating his assaults by coming straight forward, rather than boxing from the outside, using lateral movement, crouching and swarming, to seek out angles and openings.

I still think of Foreman as the favorite, though - because, contrary to the idea, by several, of him being a crude slugger, his offense wasn't entirely reliant on him closing his opponents right down to becoming a narrow target. Foreman was happy to have his opponents roughly where he wanted them, before striking, and was capable of landing across a wide area to catch a moving target, if necessary - so Fury's movement alone is not going to save his *ss here.

 

I'm actually a big Wilder fan and rooted for him in both fights. But I was surprised, Fury absolutely demolished him. Plus at 6'9 with and 85 inch reach and 273 lbs, he's very athletic and coordinated. He's got power, he's shown that he can get off the floor, in the Wallin fight, he had a terrible cut but kept his poise and won the fight. Usually these guys his size have a glass chin, or are slow, lack speed, or just lack killer instinct. He's got the total package.

 

It can enhance stamina and power. Roids can help burn fat too. Fury tested positive for Nandrolone. How does it help you asked?

Nandrolone is a substance sometimes used by bodybuilders although it is a banned anabolic steroid. It promotes protein uptake and makes it easier for the body to build muscle. It can also help athletes recover quicker and reduces tiredness, allowing them to train harder and more often.

" In June 2016, just a month before Fury's proposed rematch with Klitschko in Manchester, UK Anti-Doping suspended him due to an adverse finding. The suspension was not revealed until later in the year but Fury had already pulled out of the rematch due to an ankle injury.

Pending a hearing and appeal, Ukad said that both Fury and his cousin Hughie Fury had returned samples with elevated levels of nandrolone metabolites after their fights in February 2015. (Hughie had beaten Andriy Rudenko in Monaco before Tyson overcame Christian Hammer a week later in London.) Tyson Fury was also later charged with failing to provide a sample in September 2016, although that allegation was eventually dropped."

[url]https://inews.co.uk/sport/boxing/tyson-fury-drugs-ban-nandrolone-failed-test-ukad-anti-doping-2452874[/url]

Pretty easy to see the guys dirty. He was busted for a positive test in the Hammer fight ( And should have been suspended right there ), which was just before Wlad, and failed to provide a B sample.

Want more? Reports are now surfacing that a member of Fury's team reportedly offered to pay 25,000 pounds to a farmer in 2015 to hide an alleged failed drug test issue. If this bribe is true he's going to be banned again.

 

Read post #22 or the one above this one, and tell is if you think Fury is clean. Yes or no?

 

It gives you extra conditioning, the ability to recover quickly from the lactic acids the muscles build up ,and extra strength, allowing the abuser to spend more energy on boxing. If you get tired your boxing ability suffers. Nandrolone helps prevent this. There is your answer. Besides its illegal for a reason. Fury is a drug cheat, and a bigot, plain and simple.

 

He's drug cheat and a bigot, what's to like? Yes he is one of the best around today, but he says he's going to retire soon. He needs a fight with Joshua, who I think will drill him. Fury is big and can box, but his power doesn't impress me, and his chin looks average, Put him in there with a puncher will skills, and his magic act, which works on some of his fans who think he the greatest since Ali will quickly be exposed.

 

Agreed. First Fury has to test clean and over come the bribery allegation. Wilder wasn't very skilled. Fury said he didn't hit hard, yet he floored him twice. Joshua can both box and hit. While Joshua has his flaws too, I don't think Fury hits hard enough to change any of his plans in the ring. Fury does not have very fast hands either, another are I think Joshua has issues with.

Whomever wins is the clear #1. My guess would be Joshua, KO in 7

 

I've seen your posts. More of the same, one-sided take which, as always, showcases your balanced, researcher's integrity - NO agenda there, right?

So keen are you to take the word of a guy who, since Fury has gotten himself back into the picture (not any time during the years, in between), has decided to write a letter to Frank Warren, stating he'd previously been paid to make false statements under oath and now wanted money. How suspicious would any normal person be of that sequence of events, right there?

This farmer (Carefoot) hasn't named anyone specifically, as his contact in "Team Fury" (as he refers to them) and instead of going to UKAD, he's gone to the newspapers - I wonder why?


You like demanding answers to questions - but, you rarely answer straight ones yourself so, try and break from your usual habit of disappearing from the debate, after you've burned through your bordering on defamatory BS and answer me these questions...

...Why did it take 18months (Feb '15 - Aug '16) and a leak to the press before UKAD started chasing Fury down?

...Why, if Fury had not known about the result for all that time, did he still manage to test clean on the 11 May 2015, 16 July 2015, 8 October 2015, 17 October 2015, 11 November 2015, 13 July 2016?

...Why did UKAD take themselves to the brink of bankruptcy to prosecute the case, which appeared out of nowhere.

...Why would UKAD not speak about the case, in any shape or form, to provide transparency of their process and the details of the results that they alleged had provided them with an Adverse Analytical Finding.

...Why did UKAD deny a FOI request, seeking to discover where the money went; in particular, the legal costs, which would have indicated the extent to which UKAD were defending themselves against claims of incompetency.

...Why, ultimately, did UKAD's final statement on the charge, specifically state that "

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It is worth noting that UKAD no longer display the "The full decision" on their website and it is only via the Canadian blog [url]https://combatsportslaw.com/[/url] that I was able to find a copy.

If UKAD decide to reopen and pursue this case again, without having established genuine reliability of the witness (and one has to wonder if this would then, in turn, require the involvement of the police) it will establish, to my mind, that this is indeed a vendetta campaign against Fury.


I trust that answers your question.