Jim Jeffries v Tyson Fury 15rds?

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  1. WAR01

    WAR01 In the 7.2% Full Member

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    Don’t think much of Jeffries H2H like a few crazies and he would lose to Fury but this doesn’t make Fury remotely special he has beaten Wilder... and “Beat” Wlad and ducked the rematch wow such talent he has trouble with Journeyman at times despite every physical advantage possible over them special he is not.
     
  2. mr. magoo

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    Totally different game when Jeffries fought. But regardless he’s too outmatched physically, something he wasn’t accustomed to. Jeffries had poor defense too. His nose was broken three times and he held his guard dangerously low. Not a good stance to have against a modern super heavy
     
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  3. 70sFan865

    70sFan865 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Well, he faced 6'4 and solid Bob Armstrong and didn't have problems with him. He was usually heavier man, but also fought some taller and rangier fighters than himself.
    Modern high guard would not be as effective with small gloves. I don't know if Jeffries had good or bad defense, but his guard is not the reason why he would struggle.
     
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  4. swagdelfadeel

    swagdelfadeel Obsessed with Boxing

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    You are without a doubt one of the most moronic posters on these boards. Surprised the rest of the board doesn't see you for what you are.
     
  5. BitPlayerVesti

    BitPlayerVesti Boxing Drunkie Full Member

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    Very hard one. Neither ever really faced an opponent like the other, and both fought under very different rule sets. Plus there's only fragments of low quality footage of Jeffries and some training footage. And not even of his best efforts. Guru's only top opponents were Wlad who had developed and refined a style that was good at a certain type of opponent, but not against Fury, while Wilder had less dimensions than a straight line. Jeffries seems to have been much better at adapting and making adjustments than either of them, and Fury hasn't really faced that kind of pressure.
     
  6. 70sFan865

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    I wonder who is the closest opponent for each to compare. Did Fury ever fight good pressure fighter with iron chin who liked going to the body? Did Jeffries ever fought an outboxer who was much taller than him?
     
  7. mcvey

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    His nose was busted 3 times he had a cauliflower left ear and ridges of scar tissue above both eyes.All this from 24 fights.
     
  8. 70sFan865

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    Well, he was a pressure fighter in an era when fights were longer and more brutal. Small gloves didn't add power but they made facial cuts and injuries even worse.

    Can't say if he was good or bad defensively, but he had to do something right. He was never close to be stopped in any of his fight (outside of Johnson one of course).
     
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  9. mcvey

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    You cant say?Well read reports of his fights then you'll know what the rest of us know. Second Fitz fight he was hit at will by a man 39 years old.
     
  10. mcvey

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    Armstrong was a sparring partner quality fighter stoped twice by Denver Ed Martin,twice by Frank Childs,and outpointed by fat guts Ed Dunkhorst! And he weighed 184 lbs when he fought Jeffries so he was conceding25lbs .That makes him around 90lbs lighter than Fury was for his last fight.
    Armstrong's record is 17-10-5,3 of those wins coming over debutees. He had been ko'd in5 rds in his previous fight by Mexican Pete Everett.
    Is that a solid record?
     
  11. 70sFan865

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    I don't buy that, is this a weigh-in number? Because 6'4 guy with 184 lbs frame would look like a bean pole, Armstrong looks solid in all photos I've seen of him.
     
  12. 70sFan865

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    You see 39 years old fighter, I see an all-time great puncher and boxer who was still in his prime. Look what Fitz did to Sharkey and Ruhlin just before this fight (and no, I don't care that he had a bit of break between these fights).
     
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  13. mcvey

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    You don't buy it?
    What about his weight being
    185 for Goddard
    I85 for Slavin
    I87 for Kenney
    Don't buy those either? If they were in the 200's I reckon you'd "buy them".
    ps Armstrong was ko'd in 1 round by Sandy Ferguson.
     
  14. mcvey

    mcvey VIP Member Full Member

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    Just before this fight?
    Bit of a break between these fights?
    TRY TWO YEARS!
     
  15. Fergy

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    Fury by late ko, smacking Jeffries in the face so often he'd be practically blind.