Harry greb sparring video

Fine. But how do you explain that he lived during a time where the world had no color. Tunney didn’t even know what blue, purple, and red looked like.

 

Not sure what your point is.There is no reason why one should look so amateurish and disorganized even in training. I mean let's face it, Greb just looks awful in that clip.

 

Get some rest

 

No. We have an extensive record of over 300 fights. We have his record over Hall of Fame boxers, many of whom we have footage.

If it was even close in regards to Greb, I would have doubt. But his record reads like science fiction. In 1919 alone, he beat 5 Hall of Famers a total of 10 times, fighting and winning almost a bout a week for the entire year. As a small middleweight he was having his way with heavyweights of whom we have footage, having his way with light heavies of whom we have footage.

Again, if Greb's record were only 60% of what it is, it would be difficult to deny. But as it is, it's just iron clad irrefutable.

 

That's considered sacrilege in this forum but I'm inclined to agree.

If people want to praise Loughran's resume, fine. But I'll be damned if he looks like some kind of transcendental ring wizard in the existing footage.

 

Happen to like those videos...

 

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This isn't the first time it's been done either. It's been discussed in depth twice, at least. Maybe if people used the ****ing search function they wouldn't waste other's time.

 

We’ve got evidence to say otherwise.

 

His point is obvious.

We have a few small clips of him training, but a comprehensive record of who he beat.

That’s how they trained back then, to loosen up.

They weren’t mimicking a real fight.

We’ve got the footage of Tunney and Dempsey’s fights.

They didn’t fight like that.

Tunney fought Dempsey twice and Greb 5 times.

Greb sparred Dempsey.

Do you think he sparred Dempsey like that?

Go and read the accounts of the sessions.

Dempsey would have knocked his head off of his shoulders.

 

I don’t understand this whole reliance on the “eye test”.
Surely the fight game isn’t as simple as that. There’s been plenty fighters who passed the eye test but didn’t succeed, and plenty who failed the eye test but did.
There’s too many intangibles to rely on that.

 

Well who was successful against Mayweather, in as much as anybody ever was!

Was it the people who approached him in terms of technical prowess, or was it people who could pressure him?

 

Even if how good a fighter looks on film, was a reliable indicator of how good they were (it isn't incidentally), the available footage would not tell us very much.

What we are seeing here is Harry Greb sparring with a sixty year old man, who was once a great fighter.

It would be like dismissing Tyson Fury, based on some footage of him sparring with Larry Holmes today!