Max Schmeling V Comeback Foreman?

Discussion in 'Classic Boxing Forum' started by Fergy, Mar 30, 2020.


Who takes it?

  1. Schmeling?

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  2. Foreman?

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  1. 70sFan865

    70sFan865 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Really? Then who is a top puncher? I don't talk about power, but overall punching delivery and ability.
     
  2. janitor

    janitor VIP Member Full Member

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    I don't think that Abe Simon or Buddy Baer were ever ranked in the same year as Schmeling.

    Even Galento is a marginal case for being a fighter from the same era.
     
  3. 70sFan865

    70sFan865 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Galento better puncher than Schmeling? Are you insane? Do you understand that power is not everything in punching?
     
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  4. Charlietf

    Charlietf Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Stop inventing and manipulating. I said that did hit harder not better puncher,stop changing my words.
    And a top puncher HAS TO HIT HARD.
    stop talking nonsenses
     
  5. janitor

    janitor VIP Member Full Member

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    I think that Galento Baer Jr and Simon probably did hit harder than Schmeling.

    Were they stopping better fighters than Schmeling though?
     
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  6. 70sFan865

    70sFan865 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    But Janitor asked you for better punchers, not harder punchers.
    Schmeling hit hard enough to stop iron chinned Risko, Stribling, Hamas and he was the only one who stopped Louis in his prime.
     
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  7. RightLeftCombo

    RightLeftCombo Active Member Full Member

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    The best Max is my pick over comeback George.
     
  8. mr. magoo

    mr. magoo VIP Member Full Member

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    I can’t see max scoring a knockout here. Foreman was durable even in old age and went 12 rounds while taking a lot of big shots from guys who could crack. His best chance is to win a decision. Problem is I don’t think he can back up Foreman nor take too many of his punches. George’s cross arm defense would be hard to penetrate. And max wasn’t the type of fighter to dance circles around plodding punchers. If he was then by that logic he should have been able to do it against Baer. I’m going with Foreman by stoppage or KO.
     
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  9. 70sFan865

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    The problem with Baer fight is that Schmeling fought by far the worst fight on film we have against him. He looked far worse than in other fights.

    I can't pick here a clear winner because Schmeling would outbox Foreman without much problems, but I also agree that his style is far from the best against someone like Foreman. I agree that Max would not KO Foreman, he was a tank that couldn't be stopped at this point.
     
  10. mr. magoo

    mr. magoo VIP Member Full Member

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    I guess anything can happen in this sport. I just don’t think schmeling had the chin or the right set of tools to beat Foreman at any stage
     
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  11. janitor

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    Surely there is a universe of difference, between young Foreman, and old Foreman?

    Old Foreman might stop the weaker lineal champions, and then possibly only if they make a mistake!
     
  12. mr. magoo

    mr. magoo VIP Member Full Member

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    young Foreman and old foreman were different types of fighters. Both were very dangerous for anybody
     
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  13. janitor

    janitor VIP Member Full Member

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    I am not sure that old Foreman was to be honest.

    I suspect that most lineal champions, would have had a fairly routine night against him!
     
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  14. 70sFan865

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    I disagree here - look at how competitive he was against peak Evander who was one of the best champions ever at this division.
     
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  15. mr. magoo

    mr. magoo VIP Member Full Member

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    well Moorer was a lineal champion. 28 years of age, undefeated 35-0 and a south paw to boot. He was Ko’d. Evander Holyfield was a lineal champion undefeated in his prime and now sits in most people’s top 10. He got taken 12 rounds and had to eat some pretty big punches before settling for a decision. That’s a rough routine. Schmeling was a great fighter but not what I’d consider to be the top 15 sort of variety. Like Moorer he was a light heavyweight and one without a very good chin to boot.
     
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