Does anybody else miss the Klitschko era ?

With that said wlad is a atg and worthy of respect.

 

The above posts about sum it up. I'm sure the Klitschkos themselves understand that their era wasn't the liveliest, but they're probably happy with the dominance they enjoyed and wouldn't change too much about their careers if they could (though Vitaly would likely wish to have been given at least another round with Lewis and to have spent less time injured).

That was their time, and it was a long one, but they've been gone three years. This heavyweight era is worth living in the moment for, no need for looking back even if you're a K2 fan.

 

**** no

 

NOT AT ALL! these era of Fury, Wilder, Joshua, Ruiz JR is way better

 

No he was not. Why are you so bad at this. Vitali was 39 for Birggs. Briggs was 38. Now who was older?

 

Arreola was washed up by that time. Stiverne was never very good, and the re-match Wilder gave him was a disgrace as he was old and inactive. The 36 year old Stiverene took Wilder the distance int he first fight.

Wilder beat ZERO top ten opponents in their prime, ZERO. Washington didn't deserve a title shot, yet he was even not the cards until Wilder landed the bomb.

Like I said, a washed up and un ranked Arreola factors heavily into Wilder career. Vitali beat Arreola in his prime and best years before.

 

Joshua beat Wlad at 41 years old, out of the ring for 1.5 years, and just barley. If Wlad was younger, it's clear who would have won. Joshua also cheated by sitting out his mouth piece to get a break on unsteady legs. Yes--It happened.

Povetkin was how old? 39? And what happened? Joshua has trouble. Povektin broke his nose, and got caught with the best punch Joshua ever threw.

Notice a trend?

Ruiz in shape is 1-0 vs Joshua. The fatboy version lost the re-match on points. Shame on him. Parker was ranked, and in his prime, he just stayed away and didn't want to fight. Probably Joshua's best win over a prime opponent.

Breazeake sucks. Whyte is ranked for now,( Not when he fought Joshua ). He didn't beat anyone but had a moment vs Joshua in a non title fight.

So Joshua has two wins over top ten opposition in their prime. ( Ruiz fat body version and Parker ) Vitali's collection of wins is better than this, and you know it.

Joshua himself said if he could have half the career of Wlad he would be lucky.

 

The Klitschko era wasn't so bad.

Sure, Wlad was in some dull fights (Ibragimov and Povetkin) but he had a lot of exciting KOs (Brock, Byrd II, Jefferson, Barrett, Austin, etc).

While it's true that some of the Klitschko fans did overrate the K brothers, there were a lot of irrational Klitschko-haters. Even media people like Teddy Atlas and Max Kellerman were unfairly negative about them.

Heavyweight boxing became more of an international sport because of the Klitschkos, and that makes it all the more interesting.

 

Wrong , its well documented that Arroela was a lazy fat slob around the time he fought Vitali. Second hand reports claimed he had the work ethic of a "slug".

Nothing suggests he was washed up when he fought Stiverne. He had just destroyed Alfred Molina in one round , something Hrgovic couldn't do to the worst version of Molina that ever entered the ring.

After the Stiverne loss , he took just another round to beat Seth Mitchel who was a big hyejob during the Klitschko era.

Arroela wasn't washed up. He was finally taking his training seriously and was in the best shape of his career.

You're salty that Bermane Stiverne beat a fitter and more dedicated version of Arroela cos Arroela is one of Vitali's best wins.

Also this thread isn't about Wilder.. Wilder is the 3rd best HW of this era which hasn't even reach the halfway point yet.

 

Nope.

The best fighters in K bro era was Wlad, Vitalli, Haye, Povetkin, Pulev, Chagaev, Valuev, Ibragimov, Jennings, Helenius, Chisora, Sanders and Byrd. Supported by boxers in Mccline, Liakhovich, Peters, Brewster and completely past their prime boxers such as Rahman, Briggs, Golota, Botha, Tua and Hollyfield.

Now the best fighters are AJ, Usyk, Whyte, Fury, Hunter, Parker, Ruiz, Povetkin, Pulev and Wilder. Supported by the likes of Rivas, Joyce, Bakole, Hrgovic, Bakole, Gassiev, Martin, Chisora, Hughie, Kuzmin, Zhang, Ortiz, Yoka and Dubois.

I much prefer the later in terms of quality in depth and much, much more entertaining fights.

 

I completely agree with you. Wlad is an ATG, and I was happy to see him retire. Outside of hardcore Klitch fans, can anyone really say his fights were exciting to watch? I like the guy, respect his accomplishments but I’m really happy he’s no longer fighting.

 

I feel the same about Fury's fights. Dead boring to watch. It probably matters a lot if you're a fan of a fighter. If you are, then even if the fight is objectively boring you still don't feel bored.

 

Totally disagree with you. His fights with Wilder were a masterclass in technical boxing. Wlad with his jab and grab style was like watching paint dry. Fury is an entertaining fighter to me. His movement, control of space and style is as exciting as any fighter I’ve seen at HW.

He fights down to the level of his opponent and some of his fights have been stinkers but on the big stage, Fury has won my respect and admiration. He’s a historically good talent and I can’t wait to see him fight AJ. The Wilder rematch is a small technicality that needs to happen but I think Fury will win even easier than he did the last fight. No comparison between the excitement level of a Fury vs Wlad fight in my opinion. It’s great to have so many entertaining options at HW, assuming they start fighting again after the quarantine.

 

weak era where the top 2 fighters never fought each other and apparently Wlad got crowned "lineal" champ without unifying the major titles.

 

Nobody cares.

Look, you're trying to bash this era by comparing the WORST challengers today's top fighters fought with the BEST top challengers the Klitschkos fought.

When you look back at the 1970s, you compare the fights between the top Ring rated fighters like Ali, Frazier, Foreman, Norton, Lyle, etc. with each other. You don't say, "Well Vitali fought Arreola, but he was better than Al 'Blue' Lewis who Ali fought." Because Al Lewis was a nothing fight for Ali and didn't matter at all in the grand scheme of the division in the 1970s.

The top Ring rated fighters today are Tyson Fury, Deontay Wilder, Anthony Joshua, Dillian Whyte, Joseph Parker, Luis Ortiz, etc. and this era will be compared to past eras (like the 70s and 90s) depending on how well we fondly remember the fights when the top fighters today fought each other.

We've had Fury-Wilder 1, 2 and 3 is coming up next. We've had Joshua-Whyte, Joshua-Parker, Parker-Whyte, Wilder-Ortiz 1 and 2. And they're not finished fighting each other. We're in the midst of a good run.

The Klitschkos were the top two fighters of their era. They never fought. So we're left with Vitali fighting RING rated fighters like Kevin Johnson and Tomasz Adamek. That's a shitty era, like the 70s would've been a shitty era if Ali's best opponents of the 1970s were Richard Dunn and Alfredo Evangelista shitty.

It was so shitty, it made the whole division a joke for the better part of a decade. We went from the Lewis, Tyson, Holyfield, Bowe, era to Vitali Klitschko cautiously jabbing former light heavy Tomasz Adamek for 10 rounds.

Nobody wants to remember that.

What we have now is far better. Seriously. And it's going on right now. Enjoy it. Instead of trying to prop up Vitali's defenses against Shannon Briggs and Kevin Johnson that sucked then and still suck now.

Enough already.