chagaev Povetkin Ibragimov Those three are stellar wins. All were undefeated top level contender and/or titleholders Also Chambers brock Byrd Numerous other very good wins as well these listed above, place Wlad on the level that I don’t see fury ever reaching, as he doesn’t have the mental strength and consistent discipline to hold his titles for long enough to reach Wlads level Wlad is certainly the greatest since of Lewis, and:will be for quite some time
Jeez, no Haye? Look, I am a Wlad fan, but Fury could EASILY surpass his record, as well as Holmes, Dempsey, Liston, and a number of other beloved greats. He already has Wlad on the resume. I believe he will beat Joshua--that is two great wins right there. If Usyk picks up a portion of the fragmented belt, and Fury fights him, I think he will win that too, and that is three very legit guys, with Wilder being a good fourth. Of course, Fury has to win these fights, and nothing should be taken for granted. But saying that Fury CAN'T catch him is ridiculous, when he could probably do so in in 2-3 years, 4-5 fights if he wanted to.
All fury has to do is beat wilder again Beat Aj to become thee man Beat whyte and maybe Usyk retire undefeated with every belt possible to win, fully unfied. Something wlad couldn’t do. history will remember fury greater than wlad if this scenario plays out
Wlad's win list is very underrated. Byrd, Povetkin, Haye, Ibragimov, Pulev, Chagaev, ect. are good scalps. Combined with his lengthy title run and he's a lock for top 7/8 HWs imo. He'd probably be top 5 if he got a win over Sanders, and top 3 of he got a win over Sanders and Vitali.
Time has probably already run out. Interesting his mental strength is mentioned. In the ring he surpasses Wlad in every way in that department IMO, he's much more composed when under duress than Wlad was. Outside of the ring his discipline has let him down which ties into the mental side, very interesting contrast.
Fury and AJ can surpass Wlads resume in terms of quality and depth. I mean AJ resume is par with Wlad and clearly already has a better resume than Vitalli and Fury also has better resume than Vitalli too. Wlad best wins - Haye - Povetkin - Pulev - Chagaev - Byrd AJ - Wlad - Parker - Whyte - Povetkin - Ruiz Fury - Wlad - Chisora x 2 - Wilder Vitalli - Chisora - Adamek - Sanders - Peter If the AJ and Fury fight then the winner will have a better resume than Wlad.
Disagree. Povetkin is still one top HWs in the divison and was on a impressive win streak since the Wlad lose going into the AJ fight. Mercer was going into the Wlad fight with 4 loses and having only beaten journeyman level opponents the past 6 years since he beat his last notable opponent in Witherspoon. Chambers most notable wins were against a untested Dimitrenko and a very overrated Samuel Peter. Povetkin beat Chambers comfortably. Wlad's Chambers win is not near AJs win over Povetkin in terms of quality.
Wladimir Klitschko's resume is absurdly overrated. During his reign, he was criticised heavily for it. However, due to fans' hate for particular boxers of this era, it is likely that much of the same people bring up Wladimir Klitschko to counter their particular levels of "greatness". In an era in which there are few "greats" competing, or as is the case with Wladimir Klitschko, he did not have to face the greatest of his era (Vitali Klitschko), one would expect Wladimir Klitschko to have an unblemished resume. Well, he doesn't, and it's Vitali Klitschko who was never knocked down in his career and lost around 8 rounds in his entire pro career. To the contrary, Wladimir was sparked out by less-than-stellar opposition, not once, nor twice, but three times. Furthermore, he was outclassed by an inexperienced Tyson Fury, when he was the reigning champion, who had just signed up for another 5 years on his RTL Broadcasting deal such was his confidence. He was then 'stopped' by Anthony Joshua. I will give him credit for the latter, as he displayed much of the bravery that was missing during the earlier years of his career. If he approached the Sultan Ibragimov snooze-fest with the same mettle, do you really think that Sultan Ibragimov would have gone the distance? It's his long reign that is often used to decide his greatness, ignoring all that came before or after it, as if it didn't matter. Clavin Brock was short and useless. Jean Marc Mormeck was old, short and a cruiserweight. David Haye was short and a cruiserweight. Tony Thompson was ancient. Samuel Peter was short and average, but knocked him down 3 times. Eddie Chambers was short and useless. Hasim Rahman was short and decrepit. Sultan Ibragimov was short and average. He avenged his loss to Lamont Brewster, who was short and hardly a world beater. He beat an old and short Chris Byrd. He beat a short and old Alexander Povetkin by holding and throwing him around the ring. Francesco Pianeta who was utterly hopeless. Kubrat Pulev who is average contender and as stiff as a plywood board. Bryant Jennings who was short and average. All of these fights were in his venue of choice, with which came with his choice of questionable decisions regarding foamy rings and gloves. There's a pattern here... As soon as he faced a legitimate great boxer in Tyson Fury, he was utterly schooled. He is OVERRATED. At least Vitali Klitschko brought entertainment when he fought and had balls about him. His two losses are also unusual, not being whooped or outclassed. How many boxers have the leisure to be able to conveniently skip over fighting the best of their era? Zero!
Chagaev Povetkin Ibragimov Chambers Byrd ... Skilled fighters, but there's a pattern. They're all FAR smaller than Wlad. People pretend Wilder is small, but he isn't, he's just extremely lean. Wilder is 6'5+ with long limbs, he has a huge frame. The thing about these smaller heavies is that it doesn't matter how heavy they get, they could be 50kg heavier than Wilder, but they're still small in terms of frame and limb length, which means for skilled giants, these fighters can usually be handled easily. The point is, Fury would easily beat any of those guys by boxing long just as Wlad did. Chambers himself described how hard it was to deal with Fury in sparring.
Fury would batter the hell out of them dudes. Wlad reigned knocking over all smaller men or men who came to lie down in Germany on home turf. Fury went to long reigning champions backyards and schooled the hell out of them AGAINST THE ODDS Wlad couldn't beat Fury at any age. BIG STIFF IDIOT. You can't show me any highlights either Wlad or Vitali that makes me say "Yeah them dudes could give prime Fury a tough fight". Static footwork big lumbering low gas tank dossers. At least younger Lennox could move pretty well. You guys need to accept Fury is the first of a kind, A super heavyweight with a 12 round gas tank and sweet footwork with movement. NEVER BEEN SEEN BEFORE. EVER. Wlad was happy knocking over little dossers for 10 years. Fury ain't that type of champion. He wants to fight men who can put up a fight. That's why in 2011 Wlad pooped his pants when a young 6'8" Fury rolled into camp and took his alpha status and schooled him in a sauna. Wlad was just a control freak bully. Steward saw it coming...
