Tyson Fury has never defended a world heavyweight title

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  1. Perkin Warbeck

    Perkin Warbeck Boxing aficionado banned Full Member

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    Some people are making Tyson Fury out to be the greatest of all time. Others say he has surpassed the Klitschkos and Anthony Joshua in heavyweight achievements.

    I'm sorry to break up their fantasy, but reality is that Tyson Fury has ZERO world title defenses.

    He may eventually achieve enough to be considered an ATG heavyweight, but as of right now he's definitely not.

    He should fight the top guys: Joshua, Parker (avenge his cousin), Whyte, Ruiz, and in a couple of years, up-and-coming talented heavyweights like Dubois and Hrgovic.
     
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  2. Eggman

    Eggman "The cream of the crop! Nobody does it better! Full Member

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    Yeah everyone knows that. Technically he defended the WBC belt against Schwarz wallin and wilder because that was a rip off.

    but whatever, that’s boxing, if only my aunts had b.alls and all that.

    furys resume isn’t better than wlads now. Not yet. If he beats wilder again, aj, whyte and Usyk then most would be confident of putting him over wlad.

    but it’s a big if of course!
     
  3. navigator

    navigator "Billy Graham? He's my man." banned Full Member

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    He's defended his lineal championship 6 times now. Granted, only two of those are very creditable defences (although Wallin could yet appreciate some in worth), but guys like Sasha went in other directions when offered a fight. Question I'm asking is, does he need the ToysЯUs alphabelts when we know that three of them were stripped from him and effectively rerouted to Joshua, while the other was a vacant strap picked off by Bermane Stiverne and passed to Wilder? (Fury is lending the WBC some credibility right now, not the other way around.)

    Bear in mind, he went straight to the guy that Joshua had been wrangling and biding his time over, and showed Anthony how to take care of business. Did it on Wilder's turf, with the political leverage against him t'boot. That's worth more than some mandatory wins over Kubrat Pulev or guys of that note.
     
  4. navigator

    navigator "Billy Graham? He's my man." banned Full Member

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    I mean, I'm willing to wait 'til the (allegedly flappy) gloves are hung before comparing the résumés and overall careers of Tyson and other champion heavyweights. I'm just saying, in light of his biggest feats and the circumstances in which he's achieved them, a lack of official defenses doesn't weigh too heavily as a knock against him.
     
  5. MorvidusStyle

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    Defences mean F all in concept due to the way the boxing system works, where you can pick and choose or slip and slide as the champion and where the rankings can be flexed for convenience.

    You literally have champions openly saying they want an easy defence after winning their belts or after a number of hard fights, even 'deserving' one. It's laughable because it's an open admission of filler fights that will count toward a defence streak. On one hand you have people consistently complaining about fighters milking title reigns with easy defences or even 'holding the belt hostage', then people still use defences as a measure of validity.

    Let's put it this way, if Fury beats Wilder again, then Joshua (and maybe even Usyk) then retires, he will have better wins than Joshua and Wilder but nowhere near as many defences. Because defences mean F all, it's about who you beat!
     
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  6. Heavy_Hitter

    Heavy_Hitter Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Fury is rated high h2h, but has a poor resume. Similar to Vitaly Klitschko.
    Maybe if you are 6 foot 8 and can fight people assume you'll destroy anyone
     
  7. Eggman

    Eggman "The cream of the crop! Nobody does it better! Full Member

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    na price, Julius long, wach, tye fields, Valuev, Ustinov, Jefferson, breazelle
     
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  8. Serge

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    He racked up plenty of defences of his King of The Gypsies title in various different muddy fields, caravan sites, and in pub and supermarket car parks up and down the country and take it from someone who has had in excess of 15o (the vast majority of which I'm proud to say I won) bare knuckle fights myself up at Gypsy Level that duking it out mano e mano sans gloves is what separates the men from the boys.
     
  9. Zulawski

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    A stinker versus ancient Wlad and a second chance victory against a guy nobody ever respected beyond his one punch power. Truly a GOAT
     
  10. Boxing2019

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    Not correct. He won the title with Wilder 1 and he defended it with Schwarz, Wallin and Wilder 2.
     
  11. Thor Odinson

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    He has defended the lineal title 6 times now
     
  12. Zulawski

    Zulawski The Fistic Pariah Full Member

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    Given that lineal titles aren't real, should they be stripped after you fail a drug test?
     
  13. MrTombourineMan

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    One of them (IBF) was stripped, just as it would have been stripped from anybody because the IBF are the biggest sticklers for mandatory defenses. The other two he vacated before choosing to go on a three year bender instead of be the HW champion. The only person to take the WBO and WBA away from Tyson Fury was Tyson Fury.

    Stop revising history.
     
  14. navigator

    navigator "Billy Graham? He's my man." banned Full Member

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    He beat the sanctioning bodies to the punch, they were poised to strip him because his license was about to be removed on account of being "medically unfit" and testing positive for coke. Semantics aside, the upshot is the same. He didn't lose them in a boxing ring.

    In the case of the IBF and WBO, those belts were each won vacant by a contender and shortly passed to Joshua. The WBA was thrown into the Joshua-Klitschko bout.
     
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  15. Eggman

    Eggman "The cream of the crop! Nobody does it better! Full Member

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    Pretty cool that fury just beat wlad, chucked the belts, went on a bender for years, said eff it I’m coming back and then wins the WBC.

    what a man