Calzaghe aside- who is the GOAT at 168?

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  1. Bulldog24

    Bulldog24 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Toney at his best is the best fighter I've ever seen. Forget just 1987-2020 supermiddleweights. Him and Joe Gans anyway.
     
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  2. Cecil

    Cecil Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Against a well over the hill Eubank.
     
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  3. Bulldog24

    Bulldog24 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I don't even really read his posts anymore man.
     
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  4. Sugar 88

    Sugar 88 Woke Moralist-In-Chief

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    Did I say he struggled with everyone? No, no I didn't.
     
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  5. lepinthehood

    lepinthehood When I'm drinking you leave me well alone banned Full Member

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    BJS
     
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  6. lepinthehood

    lepinthehood When I'm drinking you leave me well alone banned Full Member

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    zaggers paddled his ass though and would of done in 2001
     
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  7. mark ant

    mark ant Canelo was never athletic Full Member

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    No Duran was the greatest in-fighter of all-time.
     
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  8. mark ant

    mark ant Canelo was never athletic Full Member

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    Tiberi wasn`t as good as Littles, Steve Collins trained in Toney`s gym for a while and he warned him to start training properly but Toney didn`t listen.
     
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  9. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    Pass that that over here so I can have a toke on it. It's been a long time.

    Calzaghe was an injury ravaged mess when he fought Starie, had been for a few years. And Starie who was a very talented fighter himself came in really light for Francis, in excess of 3lbs under the SMW limit.

    But I'm not going to be drawn to speaking ill of the dead, especially about a fighter I was a fan of. As talented as Francis was he wasn't beating Joe. I do stand by my assertion that he takes Roid out in style in an upset of the century type performance. That mandible section of Roid's would be a huge liability for 12 y/o in a regional junior championship bout, let alone against a big puncher like Francis. However, prime Joe's mandible section was forged out of Britalian iron.
     
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  10. Wizbit1013

    Wizbit1013 Drama go, and don't come back Full Member

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    Its all opinions Mark
    Thats his and Duran is yours
    Nobodys right or wrong
     
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  11. mark ant

    mark ant Canelo was never athletic Full Member

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    Fury is far better at slipping shots than botyh those fighters were and had a huge reach advantage over Haye, his jab is far more effective than Haye`s was and David was useless v Wlad, plus at cruiser he was knocked out by Thompson who couldn`t even knock out Eubank Sr, who was a champ at 160 and 168, Fury`s chin is far better than Haye`s was, no way could Haye get up from those shots that Wilder put Fury down with and Otke`s chin wasn`t tested like Fury`s has been.
     
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  12. mark ant

    mark ant Canelo was never athletic Full Member

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    No, one of us is right or wrong because either Duran or Toney was the better in-fighter, neither man wa a song or a movie.
     
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  13. mark ant

    mark ant Canelo was never athletic Full Member

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    Fury`s footwwork is far better than Haye`s and Otke`s were, he`s improved vasty since the McDermot fight.
     
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  14. Wizbit1013

    Wizbit1013 Drama go, and don't come back Full Member

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    You make no sense

    Everything is up for debate regardless of your opinion
    There will always be someone that disagrees

    Song or movie?
    How odd
     
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  15. Loudon

    Loudon Loyal Member Full Member

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    Joe does have a better SMW resume than Andre. But as always, you spin all the stats to suit your agenda.
     
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