Did Abel Sanchez really say with a straight face getting paid less $10 million was insulting?

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  1. navigator

    navigator "Billy Graham? He's my man." banned Full Member

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    Let's be honest, the only reason there's much negative sentiment directed at Abel Sanchez these days is on account of the somewhat acrimonious split with Golovkin. He was generally very well regarded until he fell out with Golovkin and invoked the wrath of the latter's overzealous, irrational diehard fanbase.
     
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    tinman Loyal Member Full Member

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    Yes, I'm capitalist. You should be paid for what you are worth. Golovkin said that Sanchez was not worth $10 million. Sanchez felt he was and left. And now Sanchez isn't making nearly as much money.

    Sanchez wasn't worth $10 million dollars because nobody would pay him that much. According to capitalism you are worth what somebody pays you.
     
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    navigator "Billy Graham? He's my man." banned Full Member

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    That's fine, if Golovkin wasn't under contract.


    Railing against a "system" where trainers are free to take on many clients (and thus make more money than many of those clients may individually be making) sounds a bit left, though. That system is free enterprise.
     
  4. IsaL

    IsaL VIP Member Full Member

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    Loyalty my friend. Sanchez was instrumental in marketing Golovkin as Mexican style.

    Without Mexican style GGG doesn't get the undeserved hype.

    How you going to diss the man introduced you to the Mexican American market (biggest boxing market in the U.S.), trained you when you weren't making money and then low ball him when it rains on you?

    Who remembers when Golovkin tried to diss Canelo by calling him a business man?

    Yet another reason to like Canelo over GGG... loyalty.
     
  5. Ph33rknot

    Ph33rknot Live as if you were to die tomorrow Full Member

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    Abe made Golovkin tell me he didnt
     
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    navigator "Billy Graham? He's my man." banned Full Member

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    Putting the issue of Sanchez aside, this is symptomatic of one of my chief reservations about Golovkin outside the ring. He's a hypocrite, and a whiny one at that. Selling this gladiatorial no-nonsense image of himself while being as much of a wrangler as some of the biggest divas we've seen. Andre Ward comes knocking after Golovkin used Ward's name for promo while he was sidelined? 164 or no deal. (Knowing full well that Ward would never agree to making that weight, for obvious reasons.) Slimy, man.
     
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    divac Loyal Member Full Member

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    Holyfield had already been Undisputed Heavyweight Champion of the World . Steward was hired by Holyfield to work his corner for the Riddick Bowe rematch after Holyfield had lost the first fight. Steward only trained Holyfield two or three fights at the most.
    Sanchez trained Golovkin for 10 years.

    Both parties here were in their rights to part ways. Golovkin I feel made a bad move from what I here in not even trying to talk it out with Sanchez to maybe come to an agreement. For as long as he's been working with Sanchez, I don't think this late in his career was a wise decision to change trainers, he certainly didn't look good in his last fight without Sanchez.
     
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  8. MetalLicker

    MetalLicker I Am Full Member

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    He's going to be 38 years old tomorrow. He's not going to look good with any trainer at that age. The days of him looking good are over, with or without Sanchez.
     
  9. IsaL

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    Exactly. I went from being a fan, to losing interest in his fights against overmatched opponents, to getting annoyed by the lack of urgency to make the tough fights to flat out thinking he was some kind of boxing conman.

    Here is a fighter who cried about being avoided, yet every time he had an opportunity for a real challenge he either ignored it or somehow swerved it.

    He is a fighter who fought many JrMWs at MW, but wasn't willing to fight a SMW.

    He chastised Canelo for his requesting a catchweight, but insisted on a catchweight against Ward.

    He repeatedly said he'd fight anyone between 154-168, but every time they called his bluff he ignored it.

    Here is a guy who chastised his nemesis for fighting a Welterweight at 155, calling it "dangerous", only for him to fight a welterweight at 160, and laving him with a dangerous injury by fracturing his face.

    He cried about Canelo not fighting him when he was the mandatory for the WBC, and then allows himself to get stripped when he himself doesn't even want to even at the very least commit to fight Derevyanchenko when he was the mandatory and was undefeated.

    He cried about Canelo fighting off the backfoot, saying it was not Mexican style, claiming that his priority was to put on a Big drama show for the fans, only for him to throw away Mexican style in the rematch, despite crying about it through the press tour leading up to the fight.

    He made it very hard to stay a fan.
     
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    iii Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Like you care about Sanchez you worm...
    Yeah ,you care about Abel & his fair share, fair share of **** from you & all of a sudden poor Abel...smoke screen to take the heat from absolute cheating scumbag Alvarez 3 time drug cheat!
     
  11. navigator

    navigator "Billy Graham? He's my man." banned Full Member

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    When you're right you're right. I know of American fight fans who had jumped on the wagon when HBO got involved and had jumped off 2, 2.5 years later due to the nonsense and the feeling they'd been conned by a slick pitch.

    I started out as indifferent. Thought he was definitely the best middleweight after Pirog dipped out of sight, just needed the shot against Martinez to prove it (would've gotten it if the latter hadn't lost to Cotto). By the afterglow of the Macklin fight, though, I was already done with the OTT network hype and fanboys getting carried away, drawing comparisons to JCC, premature anointing of greatness, etc. Then his camp really started to move like creeps, to the point where I found the Golovkin entity insufferable. Add the maniac, hypersensitive, ill-mannered fans to that.

    HBO were just desperate in those post-Haymon, post-Floyd days, scratching around for a 'next Manny Pac'. They picked a merely very good Kazakh with 'charming' broken English who was willing to play cute for TV and threw all their eggs in that basket. And it did not work out how they wanted. Golovkin is the guy who basically killed HBO Boxing. Haymon started the rot, but Golovkin, the guy who was supposed to roll it back, drove the nails in the coffin. Probably for the best, nothing lasts forever and Jim and Harold were shot parodies of themselves.

    This is coming from someone who was protesting the crass Broner hype from as early as the first half of 2011, before it really even gathered steam. I have a nose for merda and nonsense.


    Ay, I guess I somewhat anointed Fury ahead of time myself. But I was good-humored about it, didn't abuse everyone who disagreed with me (though I received my share of ridicule) and I didn't try to place him in the canon before he'd done anything. I just outlined what I believed he would do, i.e. beat Wlad one day and have a fine career, become a folk hero to his countrymen, greatness naturally follows on from that.

    I don't really give a damn about the petty feuds you guys are involved in. I just wish grown men could learn to talk about boxing without abusing each other or taking others' opinions personally. A small thing to ask. The trash gets boring, man.
     
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    IsaL VIP Member Full Member

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    I don't give two shits about Abel Sanchez, I'm just exposing the blind love GGG stans have over thwir Lord and Savior Gennadiy G Golovkin.
     
  13. IsaL

    IsaL VIP Member Full Member

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    Good post bro!

    I don't fully understand why fans become so emotional about another man to the point of insulting another person, making it personal or even making death threats. The only time I call anyone a name is when they make the interaction personal... but insulting someone because they disagree with your view on a fighter or a result is beyond ridiculous.
     
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  14. iii

    iii Boxing Addict Full Member

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    No silly boy, all YOU are doing is exposing what a nasty little unachieving hater you really are ,plus showing your own complete lack of character & backbone , you sniveller!
     
  15. iii

    iii Boxing Addict Full Member

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    You are a complete liar, all you have ever done in the past (its easy to show , is put unecessary insults in or at the end of your posts to people here. Thats how i 1st noticed you by your complete lack of respect to other posters & thought I'll see how you like your own medicine & the answer is (as usual with bullies) you don't like it one bit!