the what fights did you watch today\scorecard thread.

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2001-11-26, Non Title fight
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**** the IBO. I ain't recognizing them.

Another British classic! National pride is at an all-time peak right now.

Big Thompson fan, very entertaining fighter. O can't bring myself to say I'll ever be a fan of a Ezra. The guy looks weird, and not like a wacky weird like Michael Berryman or King Tut. This guy's a sinister-weird.

Slagging out of the way, this was an amazing fight, and a damn good win for Sellers. Opener was cagey at first, then Carl goes down, he gets back up and puts Ezra down with a perfectly placed counter. Instant momentum swing! Same in the 2nd. Yet another KD in the 3rd.
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Rd. ES : CT
1. 9 : 10
2. 9 : 10
3. 10 : 8 (

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1996-02-13, British WW Title
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Here we go again, another Brit classic...
4 KDs in the first round? 2 in the 2nd? Another in the 3rd? Excuse me... but what the ****? That's mental. Amazing fight.
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Round 1: Lueshing 10-7, clear.
Round 2: Saunders 10-9, close.

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Saw this fight a while back. Loved it.

 

I wanted to check out Chris Eubank today. I know many of you are very familiar with watching him, but I only saw his 2 bouts with Benn and wanted to see more of him. I recall reading up on all his title defenses when he was champ and he seemed to do just enough at times to retain his title. So today, I checked out his first fight with Ray Close. And to begin, Eubank is one strange fighter to watch.

Round 1: 10-9 Close
Round 2: 10-9 Eubank
Round 3: 10-9 Close
Round 4: 10-9 Close
Round 5: 10-9 Close
Round 6: 10-9 Close
Round 7: 10-9 Eubank
Round 8: 10-10 Even
Round 9: 10-9 Eubank
Round 10: 10-9 Eubank
Round 11: 10-8 Eubank (scores a knockdown)
Round 12: 10-10 Even

Total: 115-114 Eubank

Actual scores were 116-113 for Close, 116-112 for Eubank and 115-115 Even for a Draw decision. Harry Gibb, on the telecast I watched had it 116-113 for Eubank.

To begin, Eubank - aside from the fact that he is one strange character - fights in spurts and then goes into a lull which makes getting a handle on him more difficult for the judge. Close - although unspectacular - fought with good fundamentals, came in ready to go the distance and never let up, jabbing, fighting in close and kept the hustle on Eubank all the time. I don't have an issue with the draw decision even though on my card the knockdown saved it for Eubank.

 

I think I pretty watched all his fights after winning the WBO middleweight title against Benn. The big thing to realise is that the second Watson fight had a huge impact on him and it pretty much eradicated his killer instinct. He would do just enough to win, which meant he tended to fight down to the level of his opposition. I remember he had Carl Thompson out on his feet when they met at Cruiserweight and he couldn't pull the trigger.

It meant that most of defenses were pretty bad to watch and he used to wind me up no end because of his safety first approach but I'm a lot more sympathetic about that with hindsight.

But you couldn't pay me to rewatch any of them!

 

I watched James Scott- Eddie Gregory. I had forgotten the extent to which Scott dominated that fight. Gregory never got untracked. Really a good win for Scott as Gregory nearly beat Galindez in a prior fight and then KO'd M. Johnson in a later fight to win the title. Would have been interesting to see what Scott could have done in a title fight; of course, no champion was going into Rahway to face him.

 

I should say @scartissue that the first fight with Carl Thompson is excellent and whatever I thought of Eubank during his less than inspiring super middleweight title run, he showed incredible heart and an incredible chin against a hard punching fully fledged cruiserweight. Pretty remarkable considering Eubank had been at super middleweight in his previous fight only 6 months earlier. He got more fun when he lost his title - his fight with Joe Calzaghe is well worth watching too.

 

Joe Calzaghe v Chris Eubank

It got a bit scrappy over the second half but this was by and large an excellent fight between two of the best British super middleweights there have been. Calzaghe got a bit slappy at times with his shots but won rounds on volume and workrate while Eubank was content to counter but didn't throw enough to put any doubt into the judges minds. He did land some big shots though and had success when he went to the body, particularly in the 7th, his best round. I also thought the knockdown call in the 10th was bogus and scoring it 10-8 would have been unjust.

This was the start of Calzaghe's 10 year reign as world champ and was one of his toughest fights. Eubank may have been past his best but he still had enough to trouble maybe the greatest super middleweight in the division's history.

1 10-8 (Eubank down in the first 20 seconds and Calzaghe bossed the rest of the round)
2 10-9
3 10-9 (close)
4 9-10 (close)
5 10-9
6 10-10
7 9-10
8 10-9
9 10-9
10 10-9 (10-8 with the slip/knockdown but I'm not scoring that)
11 10-9
12 10-10 (maybe a little generous to Eubank but he landed the biggest punches of the round)

Calzaghe 118-111 Eubank

 

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1998-11-13,

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Silvestre Abainza 113-115
Larry O'Connell 116-114
Jerry Roth 116-112
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Some excellent information here. https://boxrec.com/media/index.php/Ricardo_Lopez_vs._Rosendo_Alvarez_(2nd_meeting)

Nasty cut in the 5th. Very interesting chess match, and the final few rounds were awesome.
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Rd. RL : RA
1. 10 : 9
2. 9 : 10
3. 10 : 9
4. 10 : 9 (39/37)
5. 10 : 9
6. 9 : 10
7. 10 : 9
8. 9 : 10 (77-75)
9. 10 : 9
10. 9 : 10
11. 10 : 9
12. 10 : 10 (

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Carl Thompson v Chris Eubank 1

Thompson toughs it out as Eubank fades in a war of attrition. Regarding Eubank's performance, I'm reminded of something Larry Merchant once said in commentary - It's a virtue to take a punch but it's not a virtue to take too many of them. Eubank seemed to be purging himself in there and his refusal to follow up when he had Thompson hurt only emphasised that feeling. He had Thompson out on his feet in the 7th but wouldn't follow up - the spectre of the Watson fight loomed large in Eubank's performance.

1 10-10 (good opener)
2 9-10 (excellent combos from Eubank)
3 10-9 (great back and forth action)
4 8-10 (Eubank gave Thompson too much breathing space after the knockdown)
5 10-9 (close but uneven round. Thompson bossing the round with stiff jabs for most of the round then Eubank hurts Thompson who is on wobbly legs by the end. Still gave it to Thompson but could easily go to Eubank)
6 10-9
7 9-10 (Eubank has Thompson out on his feet but refuses to follow up. If Eubank still had his killer instinct the fight would be over)
8 10-9 (Big round for Thompson. Eubank looks seriously tired but he still manages to wobble Thompson again! Thompson recovers quickly this time.)
9 10-9 (Eubank looks all in. Thompson is battering him now)
10 10-9 (Eubank not doing much now)
11 10-9
12 10-9

Thompson 116-112 Eubank

 

Just watched an entertaining fight between Jose Stable (pronounced Stah-blay, which I didn't know) and Curtis Cokes. Going on, I expected to see some sublime boxing from Cokes. What I saw was him basically have the play taken away repeatedly by the crowding, unorthodox Stable.

1. Cokes
2. Even
3. Stable
4. Stable
5. Cokes (establishing distance better now)
6. Stable
7. Stable
8. Cokes (strange; round taken from Stable for a low blow, despite no previous warnings)
9. Cokes (Stable hurt early)
10. Cokes

Using g the 10- point must which wasn't in play here, I'd have it 96-95 Cokes, or 5-4-1 in rounds. Had the round not been taken improperly from Stable in round 8, I'd have him the winner by the same scores. Or if they'd just deducted a point for the low blow I'd have it a draw, 95-95.

As it was, one judge had it 6-4 while the other two had it 5-4-1 for Stable. I could see that too, tough thing to score.

 

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1992-02-18, Non-Title Fight

Tony Castellano 116-112
George Colon 116-112
Nick Drake 116-109
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Watching for the top 100 - also said it'd be the FOTF for @salsanchezfan. Flo posted this one in the Forgotten wars thread and I have two points: #1. Amazing fight! #2. I've never heard a whisper of this before; definitely undermentioned. A must see, from a must-see fighter. Kelley really was as entertaining as it gets.

Nice, fun style match up, this - something like a featherweight Hagler/Vito. Dorsey just didn't stop throwing, nor was he deterred by Kelley's power. He just ploughed on. Kelley was the classier operator throughout, but his cleaner punching and slicker defence didn't cut the mustard.

Pain in the ass to score, I can see why you were interested, Sal. Rounds 3, 5, 6, 7, 9&12 were close enough to go either way, depending on what you like. I'd love to see what Drake's card was, dunno how you can get a 116-109 card for either man here's there was no point deductions or knock-downs. None of the rounds were one-sided enough to be marked 10-8, so how did he get it? Strange.
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Rd. KK : TD
1. 10 : 9
2. 9 : 10
3. 10 : 9
4. 9 : 10 (38-39)
5. 10 : 9
6. 9 : 10
7. 10 : 9
8. 10 : 9 (77-75)
9. 9 : 10
10. 10 : 9
11. 9 : 10
12. 9 : 10 (

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Glad you liked it! Probably the best fight I saw live on that network. If Dorsey didn't bleed he was gonna be in your chili all the way. His fights against Paez are much the same. I gained a grudging respect for Kelley that day, and even became a fan in time.

Terrific fight that I'll score myself soon.

 

Julio Cesar Martinez vs Mario Martinez

JCC : Martinez

1: 10 - 9
Effective inside work from JCC
2: 10 - 9
Brilliant subtle skills from JCC on the ropes.
3: 10 - 10
Close, skilled round
4: 10 - 10
Martinez lands two massive punches to make it even.
5: 10 - 9
Awesome round.
6: 10 - 9
Chavez breaking him down now.
7: 10 - 9
Great exchange. Chavez superior.
8: 10 - 9
Martinez leaving it all out there.
Ref stops it in beyween rounds.

TOTAL: 80 - 74 CHAVEZ

Notes:

• Great showcase of a young Chavez's skills in an entertaining bout, for his first title.
• How is Martinez 19 lol.