Oldest British Boxing champion for British belt

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  1. Phil Jenson

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    Hi was trying to find who te oldest guy to win a British title was
     
  2. TBooze

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    I reckon Jem Mace has the oldest claim.
     
  3. ryanm8655

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    Nel Tarleton won his last british title fight at 39. He relinquished it at 41 but didn’t lose it in the ring.

    Jem Mace a good shout but technically it didn’t exist then.
     
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    Think the only way is to go through the British champion lists and check their ages. I’ve done the earliest british champions, as well as the heavies and cruisers. Also went through the list of multiple british belt winners, which is how I got to Nel Tarleton. Yet to find an older British champion but sure there is one somewhere.
     
  6. Unforgiven

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    Dennis Andries probably.
    41 when he won the British cruiserweight title in 1995.
    Rumoured to be older but he was 41 at least.
     
  7. ryanm8655

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    Didn’t find him on my list of british cruiserweight champions for some reason...but reckon that’s the winner...

    I know Wikipedia isn’t faultless but is there a reason he isn’t on this list:

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_British_cruiserweight_boxing_champions

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    A good synopsis of his career here: http://theboxingtribune.com/2013/08...eyman-who-became-a-three-time-world-champion/

    Sounds like I need to go back and watch his fights. Why is he not talked about more? Sounds as though he just wasn’t popular but why? A three time WBC light heavyweight champion in an era when they didn’t hand out titles willy nilly...an underdog story...surprised he doesn’t get more respect.
     
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    He should be on it.

    He was always incredibly low-profile as a personality, even when champion. (Apparently he travelled home by tube the night he won the title with his title belt in his bag.) I don't think he sought the limelight. But, yeah, it's ridiculous how invisible and overlooked he's remained. I don't know what he's doing now.

    Him travelling to Detroit to fight a prime Thomas Hearns in his own backyard was incredible. A great story no doubt.
     
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    Andries then going back to Detroit and using Steward to help rebuild his career to new heights in his (at least) late 30s is even more amazing!
     
  10. Momus

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    And amazingly enough that loss kickstarted his career, as he got in with the Kronk and added a new dimension to his (ahem) skillset. Like Manny Steward said, with Andries it wasn't so much a case of teaching an old dog new tricks, as Andries didn't actually know any tricks to begin with.

    The series with Jeff Harding is one of the great fighting trilogies, and almost certainly the most overlooked. Well worth a binge for anyone who hasn't seen them.
     
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    Yeah, that was a true measure of the man.
    Andries in 1986-'87 he was one of the crudest fighters I've ever seen at that level, with 36 fights behind him when he faced Hearns, at 33 years old, with a WBC world title, 8 or 9 years as a professional.
    He got there on sheer strength, determination, perseverance and conditioning but had absolutely no refinement. Amazing work ethic.
    After the beating he took from Hearns, he used that as an opportunity to get some of the best coaching in the world.

    The fights with Jeff Harding were incredible too.
     
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    Yeah, usually when fighters at that stage of career start talking about changing trainers and learning loads of new stuff, you have to be sceptical. There's only so much improvement a fighter can make, with the best will in the world, at that stage.
    But Andries was so unpolished even the smallest things made him about 100% better.

    Absolutely. A great little series.
     
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  13. Phil Jenson

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    thanks guys so Dennis andries aged 42 was the oldest to win a British title.
     
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    Yes. 41 (and 2 months) actually, when he won it against Denzil Browne in January 1995.
     
  15. Phil Jenson

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    ah great, ive read more about him, very underrated and a good fighter.