Manny Pacquiao Names His 4 Toughest Opponents...

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  1. Pimp C

    Pimp C Too Much Motion Full Member

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    And ive seen the real Mosley-margo fights and the pac-margo fights. margo gets his **** pushed in without his loaded gloves. That really happened in the and he took 2 losses and 2 savage beatings.
     
  2. C.J.

    C.J. Boxings Living Legend revered & respected by all Full Member

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    Did Tony mess his pants in fear ??? No way in hell he's a Fighter!! a MAN!! not a cowardly wimp . I notice you completely avoided Robert Garcia's video ridiculing the loaded gloves saga ?? That pad was STILL SOFT then
     
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  3. Pimp C

    Pimp C Too Much Motion Full Member

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    You have no proof pbf did anything it's your twisted wishful thinking. I have proof that margo got his ass kicked 2x by 2 men pbf beat easily because it really happened and you and everyone here saw those beatings lol. They are both found in the record book.
     
  4. Ph33rknot

    Ph33rknot Live as if you were to die tomorrow Full Member

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    Because it's true
     
  5. kirk

    kirk l l l Staff Member

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    Thank you.

    Crazy to me how sharp he is after all the wars and punishmeny hes taken.
     
  6. JL Fighter

    JL Fighter Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Two would have been The Magic Man and La Zorrita if Pac didn't cowardly duck them.
     
  7. IsaL

    IsaL VIP Member Full Member

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    With all due respect I know you weren't following boxing back then, so let me explain what the consensus was back all the way to 2000 after his fight with MAB everyone said both men had left something of themselves in the ring. Their styles don't typically allow for long primes. Morales was all but shot by the time he fought Pacquiao. See Wilfredo Benitez, Fernando Vargas for examples. Fighters shot before hitting 30.

    Ring age is much different than regular age. As you follow boxing longer you will see fighters have long primes, and then you'll see fighters be completely spent much sooner.

    Morales lost to also an aging Barrera in a very brutal war, then beats Pacquiao in literally a "last hurrah", and proceeds to lose to Raheem, Pac twice, and loses a close controversial fight against Diaz, a fighter that in his prime he would have easily destroyed. He retires.

    Morales was a shell of himself when he lost to Pacquiao. A prime Morales beats Pacquiao 9/10 times, possibly 10/10.

    My bro... I said "Arguably". And Despite me scoring the fight for JMM every time, I am capable of understanding why someone would score fights 1 and 2 for Pac. Fight three is much harder to argue for Pac but I welcome any breakdown.

    That is the difference between a stan/nuthugger/fanboy/fanatic and a regular fan of a fighter and boxing. One is so emotionally invested that they cannot accept any other outcome but the one that makes them feel not so bad, and the other welcomes debate and different views.

    Don't you find it odd at how much certain fans cry about results?
    They act like boxing isn't subjective.
    Many had GGG winning 7-5 against Canelo, yet cry robbery. Is that even a robbery? lol Come on man. That's what I'm talking about.

    So yes, you can disagree with a score, but you can argue your opinion. Just because you have a different opinion I doesn't make it a robbery.

    Robberies are JCC-Whitaker (and I love Chavez), Trinidad-DLH (and even this seems to be a case of bad judging than corruption, and Mosley-DLH 2.

    The word robbery gets tossed around to easily, I'm eve guilty of it, but speaking without hyperbole, most fights that internet fans call robberies are NOT.

    What are you arguing here? That Margarito was a prime fighter, or that he wasn't shot? Lets say he wasn't shot then. He was a shell of himself, you can at least admit that right?

    A long 16 year career with very little defense
    Brutal wars including his war with Cotto where despite winning Margarito had never looked so beat up.
    His brutal ass kicking against Shane Mosley.
    His hand wrapping controversy.
    Not KO anyone ever again after getting caught.
    Pacquiao stacked wraps. (how does a former LW break Tony's face? Not even Santos, Williams, Cotto were able to do that)
    150 lb catchweight

    My point is that if Margarito was not sot, he was very far removed from his best.

    Not sure what your point is here. I'm just pointing out that according to the OP, one of Pac's best win is tainted with a catchweight.. Do you disagree?

    I don't hate Pacquiao at all. I'm just telling it how it is. If it bothers you, I can see why you would want to say its hate, but its not.

    I don't even care that Bob Arum carefully orchestrated Pac's career. The only beef I have with Pac is his refusal to submit to random testing for years during which time he was climbing the divisions without losing speed or power.
     
  8. tinman

    tinman Loyal Member Full Member

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    @IsaL

    Bob Arum carefully orchestrated his career? Pac got many of his biggest legacy fights without Arum. The 3 biggest fights of Pacquiao's career are Barrera I, Marquez I and Morales I.

    It was Murad Muhammad who got him the 3 biggest fights of his career. And his 3 toughest tests in his prime.
     
  9. IsaL

    IsaL VIP Member Full Member

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    Barrera I- Good win for Pac
    Marquez I- Top Rank promoted (Not a WIN)
    Morales I- Top Rank promoted (Not a WIN)

    NO, those were not the biggest fights of is career, he did not win two of those and only one was PPV with less than 350K buys.
     
  10. tinman

    tinman Loyal Member Full Member

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    They were the defining legacy fights of his career.....
     
  11. JOKER

    JOKER Froat rike butterfry, sting rike MFER! banned Full Member

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    You're a clown of the highest order, guy.

    Love how you keep parroting the same lies even as I've exposed them as lies. You keep saying that Pac avoided random drug testing, yet you NEVER talk about Floyd's ultra low T/E ratios (consistent w/ doping), his illegal IVs, or his refusal to undergo testing w/ VADA.

    You also give free passes and never mention JMM's transformation into Roidquez, how he tried to hide the fact that he was working with a doping expert, blew up in size, and was finally able to drop and stop Pacquiao. And you also ignore the fact that he showed up to the Alvarado fight with grotesque acne across his chest and back.

    You talk about Margarito as being shot, but credit Clenelo for fighting a clearly shot Kovalev, who was almost KO'd in his last fight by a nobody, had very short rest after his last fight, and was crippled by a Clenelo-ordered (complete with gagging order) rehydration clause.

    You absolutely 100% hate Pacquiao because you literally rip on the guy at every single opportunity. Plus the avatar, which shows how mentally weak and immature you are. The thing is this β€” it's cool if you hate Pac/GGG/Lomachenko, but be a man and admit it. I and many people despise Clenelo because he's a proven drug cheat, is the catchweight king, has paid judges, the recipient of multiple gifts, and has imposed crippling rehydration clauses on his opponents. You are viewed as an absolute joke of a human being not because you hate Pac/GGG/Lomachenko, but because you're a liar, a poor debater, and you lack the balls to admit you're a biased troll. You're forever a cuck, guy.

    :deal:
     
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  12. IsaL

    IsaL VIP Member Full Member

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    He beat an aging Barrera, still, an excellent win for the relatively unknown Pac.

    He gets a draw against JMM after surprising him in the first round, but manages to lose almost every round after that.

    He loses against a past prime Morales.
     
  13. IsaL

    IsaL VIP Member Full Member

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    So you're what's his face's alt? LMAO!! Paranoid Android, and then your most recent name change, and now you dig this alt from a few months ago? LOL
     
  14. Pakkuman

    Pakkuman I'm not hot. I'm just BIG. banned Full Member

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    I destroy you in all forms.

    Waiting for you to avoid my points. Again. Like always.

    :deal:
     
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  15. Reinhardt

    Reinhardt Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Then he gains 25 pounds and fights much bigger guys with success ,, boy those steroids sure do work wonders don't they?