Better Resume John Ruiz or Vitali Klitschko

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Better resume

  1. Ruiz

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  2. Vitali

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  1. ideafix12

    ideafix12 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Washington, arreola and stiverne beat sosnowski
    Disagree
    At the time of each defense I think Sosnowski beats them 2 out of 3 at least

    Washington and arreola beat Briggs. Stiverne would be interesting.
    Agree

    Washington, arreola and probably stiverne beat Johnson
    I pick Johnson over Stiverne and Arreola

    This is not prime vs prime
     
    ideafix12, Apr 11, 2020
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  2. Rico Spadafora

    Rico Spadafora Master of Chins Full Member

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    Ruiz has the great distinction of losing to two former Middleweights :lol:

    One of which whose Chin was so bad he got KOed on 3 different continents.

    Ruiz was absolutely awful and only got where he was because of his crooked promoter.

    We all saw how neutered and bad Ruiz was when he wasn’t allowed to use his illegal tactics like holding, grabbing, wrestling, clinching, and faking low blows. He literally didn’t know what to do it was pure comedy watching this disgrace try and actually ‘fight’.
     
    Rico Spadafora, Apr 11, 2020
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  3. Eggman

    Eggman "The cream of the crop! Nobody does it better! Full Member

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    sosnowski? Far and away the worst.

    5 fights before vitali

    UD win over 8-4 Terrell Wilson
    UD loss to 23-14 zuri Lawrence
    TKO win over 40-6 Danny Williams
    Draw with 18-0 pianeta
    UD over 26-8 paulo vidoz

    5 fights after vitali

    TKO win over 12-11 Paul butlin
    KO loss to 30-1 Dimitrenko
    Draw with 22-64 rasani
    SD loss to 27-2 Kevin Johnson
    SD win over 25-16 maurice harris
     
    Eggman, Apr 11, 2020
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  4. ideafix12

    ideafix12 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    What matters are the fights before, and the victory to Danny Williams and to Vidoz plus the tie against Pianeta that I gave him the winner make without a doubt the best cv before the fight for the title of the 6
     
    ideafix12, Apr 11, 2020
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  5. Eggman

    Eggman "The cream of the crop! Nobody does it better! Full Member

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    A loss, a draw and wins over shot Williams, vidoz and a no mark who was 8-4 get you a shot at the wbc. Hmmm.
     
    Eggman, Apr 11, 2020
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  6. ideafix12

    ideafix12 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Dont avoid the discussion, which of the other 5 had a better previous streak or deserved more the title in your opinion? I never said Sosnowski deserved the title fight anyway
     
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  7. Eggman

    Eggman "The cream of the crop! Nobody does it better! Full Member

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    out of all 5. I would put sosnowski at the bottom. He had only beat 19 guys with winning records in 49 fights before facing vitali.

    Briggs was 4 years removed from winning a world title. Beat 3 guys with winning records. Got a shot. Undeserved of course. But at least he had previous at world level.
     
    Eggman, Apr 11, 2020
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  8. ideafix12

    ideafix12 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Totally disagree, you do not know how to argue what you say, just for having been champion years ago he deserves a chance for the title without beating a single known fighter and after 2 years of inactivity
    No way
     
    ideafix12, Apr 11, 2020
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  9. Antsu

    Antsu Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    To be fair i wanted Briggs defence. Was thinking it is going to be entertaining while it last and it kinda was but wasent fire works i expected. result was same I was thinking beforehand thought
     
    Antsu, Apr 11, 2020
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  10. Eggman

    Eggman "The cream of the crop! Nobody does it better! Full Member

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    well do you really think sosnowski who lost to lawerence, then a couple of fights after vitali lost to a guy who had been beaten 60+ times?

    sosnowski is the absolute worst defence by a country mile. He wasn’t on a winning streak. Didn’t beat anyone significant in the run up. Both Briggs and sosnowski were awful, but I would fancy Briggs to stop sosnowski. My opinion of course.
     
    Eggman, Apr 11, 2020
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  11. ideafix12

    ideafix12 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    The career of Briggs was always the same a lot of smoke
     
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  12. ideafix12

    ideafix12 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I prefer a defense against an active fighter, even if it is not entirely good than against an old fighter who has not fought for years and only has the name
     
    ideafix12, Apr 11, 2020
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  13. ideafix12

    ideafix12 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Agree Sosnowski defense was really bad but Briggs was worst
     
    ideafix12, Apr 11, 2020
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  14. Eggman

    Eggman "The cream of the crop! Nobody does it better! Full Member

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    well it seems like we’re basically arguing over nothing, we can agree they were both bad!
     
    Eggman, Apr 11, 2020
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  15. Antsu

    Antsu Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Yeah but love the entertaiment part and his big punch keeping you waiting as long as it last. :D
     
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