Worse chin, Joshua or Wilder?

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  1. VG_Addict

    VG_Addict Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Neither of them are exactly iron-chinned, but I think Wilder's is worse. He got KO'd in the amateurs, dropped by Sconiers and Nichols, rocked by Molina and Ortiz, and dropped and stopped by Fury.

    Joshua was dropped and stopped by Ruiz, and dropped by Wlad.
     
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  2. Rico Spadafora

    Rico Spadafora Master of Chins Full Member

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    Wilder. If Wilder had fought Joshua’s opposition he would have several KO losses.
     
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  3. Heavyrighthand

    Heavyrighthand Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Wilder. By far.
     
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  4. Wallee

    Wallee New Member Full Member

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    I would say Joshua.
     
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  5. Eggman

    Eggman "The cream of the crop! Nobody does it better! Full Member

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    Hard to tell. Based on opposition I would lean towards wilder having the worse chin.

    however I think aj and wilder have pretty decent chins. Aj is pretty good, he got hit flush from Klitschko, wlads elite textbook right flush and got up. Ruiz loss was nerves and temple shot.
     
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  6. Dubblechin

    Dubblechin Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Fury never dropped Wilder with a punch to the chin. Ortiz never dropped Wilder with a punch to the chin. Molina never dropped Wilder with a punch to the chin. Nichols nevet dropped Wilder with a punch to the chin.

    Both were stopped as amateurs. Joshua has been dropped five times as a pro in a little more than 20 fights.

    Joshua has the worst chin of the two.
     
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  7. Eggman

    Eggman "The cream of the crop! Nobody does it better! Full Member

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    I can understand your view, I don’t believe either have particular vulnerable chins. Maybe fury has the worst, he’s been decked by pajkic, USS and wilder twice. My opinion
     
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  8. Dubblechin

    Dubblechin Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    No, he wouldn't. He'd just have half as many wins.
     
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  9. Tankatron

    Tankatron Boxing Addict Full Member

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    That right hand that WK landed on Joshua was potentially a fight ending shot for pretty much any Heayweight out there so yeah, Joshua did well getting up from it. I've never seen Wilder caught flush to be honest. Even the 7th rnd. against Ortiz didn't have any clean shots landing flush on Wilders chin.

    A lot of the shots were glancing blows or a case of Ortiz rushing and smothering his own work. Even the shots that dropped Wilder in the Fury rematch were more cuffing shots as opposed to flush, sweat spraying, head snapping shots.

    To be honest, the only half decent punchers Wilders ever faced are Stiverne (past it, overrated or shot to ****), Ortiz (past it and somewhat overrated never was and never will be) and Breazeale who is barely worthy of top 20 now.

    Joshua on the other hand has faced Whyte, WK, Povetkin, Ruiz, Breazeale, Takam, Parker, Martin all of whom can punch to varying degrees.

    Therefore, in my humble opinion, Joshua has the more tested and therefore the more durable chin but, not by much. Just looking at their respective physiques, it makes sense that Joshua will be more durable as he has pretty stout legs and a thick neck, especially in comparison to Wilder.
     
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  10. Dubblechin

    Dubblechin Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    It seems like, on this site, everyone is a puncher if they fought Joshua.

    Andy Ruiz is not a puncher. He wasn't before he fought Joshua. He isn't after. Joshua got stopped by him. Liahkovich appeared to out point Ruiz, and nobody gave Wilder credit for stopping Sergei.

    Povetkin has one stoppage win in his last six fights. If he was a puncher (when he was blowing PED tests), he hasn't been for his last half-dozen fights.

    How is Whyte a puncher again? Because he knocked out Helenius? (Oh, he didn't.) Because he knocked out Wach? (No, he looked like garbage against him.) Because he knocked out Rivas? (No, Rivas knocked him down.) Because he knocked out Lucas Browne? So did Dave Allen. Please.

    Wilder fought Breazeale, too. It took Joshua seven rounds to TKO him. It took Wilder about 90 seconds.

    Enough. Joshua hasn't fought more power punchers than Wilder.
     
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  11. chico g

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    The bodybuilder Joshua has flopped on his knees more times than a red district hooker!
    And it will only be a matter of time when another obese behemoth does it again! Lol
     
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  12. Tankatron

    Tankatron Boxing Addict Full Member

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    You and your ****ing triangle theories again! Guess what, Charles'walks the earth like a god' Martin has a higher KO% than Wlad Klitschko, does that make him a better fighter or harder puncher? Course it ****ing doesn't but, all the guys I mentioned have KO'ed. 2 3rds of their opponents or better. You say Dillian Whyte can't punch. Try telling that to Derrick Chisora after he got rendered unconscious by a single left hook.

    Wilder would be stretchered out by the same punch.... FACT!

    Wilder got decked by a clip round the ear FFS! It wasn't like he got his head snapped round by a punch to the point of the chin, it was a clip round the ear. Dropped by Harold Sconiers, a former Super Middleweight FFS.... FACT!

    DO ME A FAVOUR DOUBLEANAL, LET ME TEST YOUR CHIN JUST ONCE!
     
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  13. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    AJ has fought way more punchers than Bootleg D both amateur and pro

    I've carried out extensive scientific research on this subject

    Punchers Bootleg D has fought

    In the ams

    Chakhiev
    Romanov

    Pros

    Ortiz
    Stiverne


    Breazeale

    Harrison could punch but he died of fright during his ring walk and didn't land a punch


    Punchers AJ has fought

    In the ams

    Majidov

    Cammerelle x 2

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    Nistor
    Savon

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    Dychko
    Zhang
    Kuzmin

    Pros

    Wlad
    Povetkin
    Whyte

    ^^ their KO HL reels speak for themselves

    Ruiz - Parker said Ruiz hit him harder than anyone
    Parker
    Martin
    Breazeale

    Bootleg D aka Bum Squad

    Dropped, wobbled everytime he was hit (and even wobbled sometimes when he wasn't), and stopped by Romanov in the amateurs. Romanov even made his legs dance to two different genres of music at the same time (chicken dance and salsa aka The Chicken Salsa) and had the ref not dived in to save his ass he would've unquestionably been sparked out in HL reel fashion

    Dropped at least a couple of times and was wobbled and badly hurt in sparring by Wlad with big gloves and pillows on and this definitely happened and that's the best case version too. He was so badly hurt after hauling his ass off the canvas in one of those instances the ref would've waved it off had it been a real fight.

    Wobbled and hurt by a Eric Molina left hook

    Breazeale - hurt Bootleg D a bit prior to offering his chin on a platter to him

    Dropped by Dustin Nichols who'd had a bad camp and wasn't in optimum shape

    And he was ''dropped hard with only the bell saving him from being knocked out'' by a salmon farmer named Harold Sconiers who moonlighted as a prize fighter bum when he wasn't harvesting and breeding salmon and it ''took forever for his head to clear'' after he hauled his ass off the canvas and the bell came to his rescue.

    The footage for that fight has ever so conveniently completely vanished from existence but a reliable source who shall remain nameless informs me that the master copy of is buried deep in Al Haymon's vault in a secret location down a mine somewhere in Alaska

    Ortiz hurt him and had him out on his feet before the bell came to his rescue in that one too. Bootleg D is lucky he kept his chin down during the assault by Old Man Ortiz or he would've wound up on the wrong end of a KO loss to a senior citizen who was officially 2 weeks shy of his 39th birthday but we all know he's at least 10 years older than his listed age

    Dropped heavily by a 60% ''non puncher'' in Fury who also wobbled him down to his soul with a jab, hurt him numerous other times and stopped him and was surely only seconds away from being sparked out cold in brutal fashion had his corner not thrown the towel in.

    For those of you among us who have ever spent any time on holiday at her majesty's pleasure, like I have numerous times including long stretches banged up in solitary, and are familiar with the vernacular of the inside:

    Bomb Squad = Prisoners sent to clean an area where excrement has been thrown from the windows of the prison
     
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  14. George Crowcroft

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    And 4 times the losses.
     
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  15. Zulawski

    Zulawski The Fistic Pariah Full Member

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    AJ got rocked by Whyte during a similar sequence to the one Ruiz caught him in. AJ had Whyte reeling, waded in lazily, and got his legs buckled for a second.
     
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