Worst Refereeing Performances

Some these criticisms show a complete lack of knowledge of the ref being criticised or the context of the times. For instance, the criticism of Goldstein is moronic. Goldstein was one of the most respected refs in the country. Paret was well known to take punishment and come roaring back, in fact he had done this to such great effect in the previous fight with Griffith that Griffith was told if he got Paret hurt to keep punching andnof let Paret roar back and finish the exchange, stealing points. This all led to tragic results but blaming Goldstein is asinine.

For my money the worst ref performance, and there are a lot, was the ref in the first Mando Ramos-Carrasco fight. He was inexperienced, stupid, and corrupt. A very similar performance was that by the ref in the Little-Mazzinghi fight.

 

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Machen could've been killed there. What an idiot that ref was.

 

I criticized Goldstein.I think he stopped the Robinson v Turpin fight too soon because of a recent ring tragedy.
I think he failed to protect Patterson when he arose and allowed Ingo a freeshot from the blindside.I think he allowed the Paret fight to go on too long as well. Paret had taken a bad beating from Fullmer,,just a few months earlier maybe Goldstein should have thought of that instead of how he came back against Griffith before that?.

As I pointed out before not everyone who disagrees with you is a moron.
You have a real problem with people whose opinion does not coincide with your own.

 

Randy was in big trouble in that fight. The British press grumbled mostly because they were gutted that they couldn't gloat at their American colleagues.
If Randy had taken a count he would have survived the round and would have had a good chance of winning the fight but I think he was too scrambled to think that straight.

 

I have a real problem with morons. Not people who disagree with me. Even in the Fullmer fight, if youd watch it instead of parroting what you read in a magazine 30 years ago, youd see Paret had a habit of getting rocked, looking to be in dire straights, and then coming back strong. I would urge you to go back and watch Patterson-Johannson 1 and tell me Goldstein let Patterson take too much punishment. Pay particular attention to the fact that Patterson continually gets up, continues to throw and duck punches, and had Johannson missing tons of punches. Furthermore, in that era as we all know it was much more common to let fights continue, particularly championship fights as opposed to how they are officiated today. By comparison go watch Robinson-Turpin 2 and tell me how Turpin is fighting back? Oh wait, hes not, hes against the ropes, getting hammered and when his head is snapped back violently the fight is stopped. Totally consistent. Im sure the fact that Turpin is British, like you, has nothing to do with your opinion Frankly, the one performance of Goldsteins that stands out to me as particularly bad was the first Fullmer-Robinson fight in which Fullmer fought incredibly foul and was given the title. He was never warned and had no points deducted. When Goldstein was asked afterwards why he allowed Fullmer to fight that way he said "Because thats the only way he knows how to fight." That is the most damning performance you could mention of Goldstein's the others are taken out of context and frankly show a pretty strong lack of understanding of how fights were officiated 50+ years ago. Even with that rather asinine comment he made about the Robinson fight he was one of the best and most respected referees in the sport.

 

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Anyone remember Joe Cortez's disgraceful performance in that fight where he DQ'd Soto for "punching him while he was down" when it was just a grazing shot? Unbelievable.

 

Watching the last round closely we can see that most of Rays's punches were missing the target when he had Turpin on the ropes.It was a desperate assault by Robinson because of his cut eye.I;m not prepared to say who would have won had Turpin done what you suggested ,which btw would have been the smart move on his part,imo.

 

Ive seen the fight 3 /4times.I stand by my opinion.17/18 unanswered punches.
Was Paret fighting back?
The beating Fullmer gave Paret possibly had more to do with his death than the beating Griffith gave him.Fullmer certainly thought so.He blamed the commission for allowing Paret to fight so soon after the beating he had given him


Ive watched the Ingo v Patterson fight,I bought it about 50 years ago
Patterson did not know where he was .This is confirmed by Patterson himself,he thought he had knocked Ingo down!He was going towards a neutral corner because he hears Goldstein shout it at Ingo and told himself ,"I must have knocked him down" .He stated that,after 1 kd he only realized he was down because of the angle John Wayne,sitting ringside ,as to him.
Turpin isn't fighting back,but he is ducking and weaving evading most of the punches thrown.
Some of the press speculated the fight was stopped prematurely.My being English has never influenced my opinion of who deserved to win a fight, or the validity of one being stopped.

You have one opinion,I another,the difference being I don' t call you names because yours does not coincide with mine.
I know how fights were officiated 50 years ago,I was watching them as they happened!
The BBC used to run US fights every Saturday afternoon,guys like Henry Hank,Rory Calhoun,Randy Sandy,Joey Giardello were always being shown. Goldstein is a HOF Referee That doesn't mean I have to be impressed with him and Im not!

 

Referee in the Golota - Byrd fight was terrible passive. You might say he wasn't in the ring.

 

Taylor was well ahead. Duva shouldn't have stopped it but should have told Taylor to just survive the 12th
But he didnt trust the WBC judges so he told Taylor he needed the round. He didn't.

 

The answer will always be Mora:

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Guy Jutras. He stopped the Hilton vs. Benitez fight late and was totally inept in the Pedroza vs. LaPorte foulfest.

 

My nuts were hurting after watching that.