Worse chin, Joshua or Wilder?

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  1. Eggman

    Eggman "The cream of the crop! Nobody does it better! Full Member

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    Gonna have to agree here. The times AJ has genuinely been caught by a big punch on the chin (whyte, wlad).

    against whyte he done a bit of a dance but whyte is known for his left hook. Weathered it and got through without dropping

    Klitschko checked his chin HARD when he was gassed. It was wlads bread and butter championship punch. Hats off for getting up, composing himself and winning.

    Ruiz was nerves and getting concussed with a brilliant temple shot. Can’t really say that’s a chin problem.

    wilder was going to be ko’d by fury after being dropped twice, although the neither on the chin. However furys kronk jab was sending wilder flying.

    molina wobbled him visibly

    down from a nobody

    ortiz 1 there was some shenanigans, I will never believe otherwise
     
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  2. George Crowcroft

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    That might be the politest way of describing that man's physique.
     
  3. Serge

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    Don't get me started on Dusty Nichols and what could've been had he actually taken training seriously and had the rub of the green in some of his more controversial losses. The guy's the poster boy for wasted talent and potential and it broke my heart to see him throw it all away.
     
  4. rski

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    AJ’s chin has been tested by better opposition so I’d have trouble saying his chin was weaker than wilder’s. I prefer wilder as a fighter and think he has more pure heart but it’s difficult, if you are being impartial, to ignore the fact Joshua has the better resume and has been hit with bigger, better punches.
     
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  5. VG_Addict

    VG_Addict Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    That left hook that Whyte threw that rocked Joshua would have dropped Wilder, with his skinny legs and terrible balance.
     
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  6. Dubblechin

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    Why would it have dropped Wilder?

    When have you seen Wilder dropped by any punch to the chin or temple as a pro?

    Joshua has a worse chin.
     
  7. Dubblechin

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    Hilarious.

    Parker barely edged Hughie Fury. Povetkin was dropped by Price. Wlad lost Fury. Ruiz was a bloated late sub. That is the murders row Joshua faced when he got in the ring with them. And Joshua got dropped five times against that lot.

    Oh, and the only time Parker landed a hard shot, Joshua called for a time out. And the ref gave it to him.

    No chance.
     
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  8. Pimp C

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    Exactly!
     
  9. George Crowcroft

    George Crowcroft He Who Saw The Deep Full Member

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    And yet still has a better résumé than Wilder...
    Wilder was dropped by Sconiers...
    Wilder lost to Fury...
    Who has a better win than Wilder... And would beat Wilder...

    You see how easy that was?
    You're not very good at this are you. It's convenient you leave Whyte out.

    Wilder has faced two punchers... Both over the age of 35, one of whom had him reeling and ducked both Whyte and Joshua. The other, well, we know how good Stiverne was. He was wobbled by Breazeale and Molina. Joshua didn't lose a 2nd to either of them.

    Remember when Ortiz (y'know, a guy who doesn't hit as hard as Ruiz, Povetkin, Wlad, Parker or Whyte?) landed his flurry on Wilder and Wilder needed extra time ? Yeah, me too.

    Joshua > Wilder.
    Joshua's chin > Wilder's.
     
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  10. Dubblechin

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    It's nice you totally give Joshua a pass for the fight where he was dropped four times and was stopped by a guy who was never known for his punch ever.

    I mean, why would we want to consider that?

    But let's talk about the times Wilder didn't go DOWN AT ALL and hold that against him. (LOL)

    Another troll thread.
     
  11. Dubblechin

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    Joshua doesn't a have a better resume.

    Wilder fought Tyson Fury (the WORLD CHAMPION) twice and dropped Fury twice. And he's fighting the World Champion again in October.

    When did Joshua fight the WORLD CHAMPION twice? Any undefeated "World" (not alphabet) Champion twice? (Because Wilder's going to fight the World Champion for a THIRD time in October.)

    And when Wilder is fighting the WORLD CHAMPION for a third time this fall, Joshua will be fighting Kubrat Pulev, who is unrated and pushing 40.

    And you aren't very good at this, particularly with modern boxers who you have bias against. Something tells me if we were talking about 1940s fighters, and someone had fought Joe Louis or Ezzard Charles twice (or THREE times), and only lost once to one of them, you might think the guys who fought Joe Louis or Ezzard Charles had a better resume than those who hadn't fought them at all.
     
  12. Eggman

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    Eh? I didn’t give him a pass. I also said wilder wasn’t chinned v fury.

    I would say whyte hits harder than molina

    wlad flush shot is harder than anything wilder has been hit with.

    not saying wilder has a poor chin at all
     
  13. The Clan

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    Let’s not start comparing opposition eh?

    Deontay Wilders Opponents
    Fight Nō - Opponent - Rank at Time of Fight

    1 - Ethan Cox - Unranked
    2 - Shannon Gray - Unranked
    3 - Richard Green - Unranked
    4 - Joseph Rabotte - 393rd
    5 - Charles Brown - Unranked
    6 - Kelsey Arnold - Unranked
    7 - Travis Allen - Unranked
    8 - Jerry Vaughn - Unranked
    9 - Ty Cobb - 399th
    10 - Alvaro Morales - Unranked
    11 - Dustin Nichols - Unranked
    12 - Shannon Caudle - Unranked
    13 - Harold Sconiers - Unranked
    14 - Dan Seehan - Unranked
    15 - Deandrey Abron - Unranked
    16 - Reggie Penna - Unranked
    17 - Damon Reed - 304th
    18 - D Alexander - Unranked
    19 - Daniel Cota - 489th
    20 - David Long - Unranked
    21 - Marlon Hayes - 368th
    22 - Jesse Oltmanns - 492nd
    23 - Owen Beck - Unranked
    24 - Kertson Manswell - 310th
    25 - Damon McCreary - 357th
    26 - Kevin Price - Unranked
    27 - Matthew Greer - 325th
    28 - Audley Harrison - 136th
    29 - Siarhei Liakhovich - 43rd
    30 - Nicolas Firtha - 121st
    31 - Malik Scott - 86th
    32 - Jason Gavern - 194th
    33 - Bermaine Stiverne - 5th - WBC World Title
    34 - Eric Molina - 37th
    35 - Johan Duhaupas - 34th
    36 - Artur Szpilka - 24th
    37 - Chris Arreola - 43rd
    38 - Gerald Washington - 41st
    39 - Bermaine Stiverne - Unranked
    40 - Luis Ortiz - 4th
    41 - Tyson Fury - 4th - cough cough Draw ahem
    42 - Domonic Breazeale - 15th
    43 - Luis Ortiz - 9th
    44 - Tyson Fury - 1st - Lost by Brutal KO
     
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  14. George Crowcroft

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    :lol: okay sunshine, whatever makes you feel better.
     
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  15. Dubblechin

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    Apparently, anyone who hurts Joshua is "a puncher." And since Wilder hasn't been bounced off the floor a half-dozen times, he hasn't fought any punchers.

    44 pro fights. Only two punchers. Got it.

    Seriously, you guys are clowns.
     
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