Young Tyson said he would beat Ali.

Tyson falls to Cassius Clay as Ali himself predicted in the 80s. Ali would have fed him a big meal of stick and move, made him drunk, taken him out in the 10th.

The only fighter Tyson fought who came anywhere near Ali (grandpa Larry doesn't count) was Holyfield (who was without question past his prime). And Tyson got beat, beat, BEAT.

Ali was far faster, had way better defensive movement...as much as I love Holy (and I have him at #4 ATG heavy, Ali at #1), he simply wasn't that. Neither was Buster Douglas or Lennox Lewis btw.

Just my opinion, one I'm sure that not only a lot of people here but Tyson himself believes. Mike didn't have the heart and perseverance of a prime Joe Frazier (though he was quite the great fighter himself). The 60s Ali would have danced rings around him, pressing hard on his neck every time he comes in and expertly tying him up each time he even gets a little set to punch. By the sixth round Mike is adopting his usual stylistic change, becoming far less aggressive and attempting to conserve energy. He's still taking punches in bunches, and the jab seems glued to his face. By the 10th he would have eaten a ridiculous amount of punches, and Ali would come down off his toes long enough to sit into his punches. Mike's staggering drunk mid-way through the round and takes some vicious, ugly right hands and left uppercuts. He quits in his corner, with Ali looking still fresh and bouncing on his toes, still ready to finish things.

 

I know this, but in my opinion his peak yrs were 65 to 1968 . In 68 of course he was forced out boxing. In 1970 when he returned he clearly wasn't the athletic marvel he was in the mid 60's.
But , this is when he showed he was a tough as nails S.O.B.
Tyson's peak is 86 ' to late 88' . So these are the times I'm comparing the fighters their peak years. But I also added in what they demonstrated after their peak yrs. When they slowed is when we found out who they were in their heart and mind. At this time is when they couldn't dominate on better skills and atheletiscim, and sometimes had to take some to give some.

 

Mike was amazing in that time period, @Flash24 . But Ali would have had little problem evading him. Look at how just-turned-grandpa Larry tied Mike up again and again during their short fight. Now imagine prime Ali...Mike would have been a bit like Liston, having trouble getting set to land a flush punch. It's true, Mike was faster than Liston, but I think the people who mentioned psychological edge are on point as well; Mike was obviously afraid of Holyfield in their second fight (watch him get bitched out in the staredown), and that's why he decided to throw the fight...he couldn't beat someone who was not only afraid, but completely confident of beating him. The last is also one of the reasons guys like prime Liston and Foreman would have beat him.

 

I now understand, thanks for the clarification. Your post is very good. I just hope and it probably will never happen, but I wish that those who know the obvious outcome would welcome acceptance, Buster Douglas proved it.

 

I agree brother. I can imagine how "Thrown off" Tyson would be dealing with Ali. I can easily envision Tyson after trying to impose his will on Ali the 1st few rds, becoming reluctant, timid, start resorting to trying to wrestle and foul Ali. This is where in my opinion he would discover how physical strong Ali is. (Something he rarely gets credit for, his physical strength but even Foreman though stronger than Ali, couldn't manhandle him)He wouldn't be able to manhandle Ali. This is in my opinion were Tyson would become resigned to his fate. And go into a shell.

 

Well , brother we're hear because we love the sport. And to receive insight from a different perspective. .It may not necessarily be what we believe, but it's others opinions that make this site worthwhile. As long as insults are not being thrown because of a different point of view. Or outlandish nonsense, every opinion should be excepted. Only thing that get to me is the size kings, and the "modern training " Fanatics. They show me a superficial understanding of the sport of boxing. I try not to engage in dialogue with them since they think they know so much about the sport, and usually don't listen anyway.

 

It wouldn’t be fair Tyson is at least a few decades younger then you, I do believe you stand a chance knowing master Langford you would’ve surely learnt something yes?

 

You giving credit to Tyson????????? Where's the real Wass1985 and what have you done to him??

 

Prime Tyson would have destroyed Tillis and Douglas, he was green v Tillis after he became champ he grew and grew, God knows how good he could have been if he stayed with Rooney and he had no stamina problems v Tucker who beat Douglas.

 

I had a look at this thread because I read an article in a Brtish newspaper yesterday wherre Ali`s son responded to a recent computer tournament that showed Tyson beating Ali, he said Ali would have easily beaten Tyson but would have struggled with Bruce Lee, lol!

 

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Maybe Joe Egan? Is alot of stuff regarding him and MT out there.

 

Tyson last week rubbished claims he would beat Ali.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/b...-bout-Muhammad-Ali-hailing-greatest-ever.html