Worse chin, Joshua or Wilder?

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  1. Bustajay

    Bustajay Feel the Steel/Balls Deep Full Member

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    I stand corrected...Nice find sir:beer-toast1:
     
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  2. Sugar 88

    Sugar 88 Woke Moralist-In-Chief

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    Wilder is a weird one as due to his limitations you can make good arguments for him having been both managed really well and managed really badly.

    I actually think he was better than his handlers thought he was on the way up when they kept him away from anyone with a pulse and that they did him a disservice by not slowly increasing his level of opposition and letting him improve.

    If he wasn't easily knocking overmatched guys the F out all the time he may have actually improved his skills over the years and who knows what he could of been then.
     
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  3. Jackomano

    Jackomano Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    This. Wilder's chin didn't let him down, but his unwillingness to follow instructions and being way too predictable. People aren't giving Fury enough credit for coming into the rematch with a very effective gameplan, which completely neutralized Wilder. He took away both Wilder's mobility and right hand, so no matter how much Wilder tried to bail himself out with his right hand it didn't work.
     
  4. DoubleJab666

    DoubleJab666 Dot, dot, dot... Full Member

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    Lying? You really see yourself as the defender of truth here? Let's dig deeper.

    He's not lying, he's expressing a strongly-held POV that - in his opinion - Wilder has not won a round against Fury, other than those which included a KD. Lots of people feel the same way, despite what the judges concluded. Interestingly, you mention the judges but don't list how many rounds from both fights combined where at least two awarded it to Wilder, excluding the rounds in which he knocked down Fury. If you need two or more judges to rule you won a fight, you need two or more judges to win a round.

    As far as I can work out, that number of rounds is: two. Or is one judge more important than the other two when it suits your narrative? Or are you 'lying'?

    I would have thought being someone who regularly presents a dogmatic view of Wilder you could understand if someone else does too.

    Lying, though? That's very emotive. Your attitude about Wilder is a bit weird to be honest....
     
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  5. Tankatron

    Tankatron Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Bye then
     
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  6. Tankatron

    Tankatron Boxing Addict Full Member

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    It's not really a rubber match given that Wilder lost the first 2 fights, at least according to 95% of the boxing world (I exclude the members of the LDBC from that equation as they're a bunch of kuntz).
     
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  7. Tankatron

    Tankatron Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Losing to the same fighter THREE times doesn't really do anything to raise your resumes standing......does it?
     
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  8. Wizbit1013

    Wizbit1013 Drama go, and don't come back Full Member

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    This is hilarious
    Better resume... Your absolutely bonkers
     
  9. KeedCubano

    KeedCubano Read my posts in a Jamaican accent Full Member

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    Yes... a resume, by definition is what you have accomplished, not what you have tried to accomplish.

    Fury isn't on Wilder's resume, as he never beat him. I thought this was common sense.
     
  10. The Clan

    The Clan Well-Known Member Full Member

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    “Wilder took his beating like champ”

    Did he really, I’m not sure Mark Breland would agree or the guy who designed Wilders Sauron costume or the guy who decided to put flashing LED lights in his mask or maybe the masseuse who overdid his right thigh lol

    His excuses were more pathetic than any losing fighter in the history of boxing!
     
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  11. The Clan

    The Clan Well-Known Member Full Member

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    When did Joshua avoid Fury?

    It’s so far been impossible to match them as Fury was in the midst of his 3 year meltdown before Joshua rose to prominence. When Fury came back he signed to fight Wilder almost immediately, then was locked into a rematch.

    So Ill ask again, when did Joshua avoid Fury?
     
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  12. Neon Maniac

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    AJ invited Wilder into the ring after his win over Klitschko at ringside to set that up , Wilder at ringside said no let the champ have his moment as if he’s doing us a favor and proceeded to talk up Tony Bellew as a build up ?



    What exactly was AJ supposed to do to get Wilder to sign , since 2017 was excuses after excuses from Wilder to not fight him ?
     
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  13. Oreet Cha!

    Oreet Cha! I know what I like and I like what I know. Full Member

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    Excuse me but you first of all list fighters who never dropped Wilder with a punch to the chin. Ok.

    You then say that Joshua has been dropped 5 times (WK 1, Ruiz 4) yet the very first Ruiz knockdown was a punch to the side temple! I haven't replayed the fight for the other 3 KDs but this alone shows right through your bias and therefore, your opinion is in tatters and cannot be taken seriously.

    Play by the rules, don't play by making up the rules.
     
  14. Oreet Cha!

    Oreet Cha! I know what I like and I like what I know. Full Member

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    Jeez, you are one dumb...

    Fury was NOT World Champion when he fought Wilder both times (fact). He is now though should they meet in October.

    Joshua fought 3 World Champions in Martin (IBF), Parker (WBO) and Ruiz (IBF, WBA, WBO). He beat all 3.

    Actually, I shall change my opening line.

    Jeez, you are the only dumb...
     
  15. Oreet Cha!

    Oreet Cha! I know what I like and I like what I know. Full Member

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    But y'know, I'll play your game by your rules.

    Joshua fought World Champion Ruiz twice. There you go. I've joined in with your silly statements. Maybe this is the only language you understand, that of silly statements.

    On yer bike, son.