Max Baer hit harder than...

He didn't hit as hard as any of them

 

Because he fought in 1930s, righr?

 

He threw punches like one would at an arcade power bag, winding up from another postal code. Wilder used to do this and it worked against the level of opposition he chose. It worked against the some of Baer's opposition, too, given it's level. If guys like Liston and WIlliams rolled the dice the same way, their power would have made everyone forget about Max.

 

The cartoonish haymakers that score the highest on those instruments are very different than the types of punches that most boxers actually throw in real boxing matches though. In fact, the punches that do best on those tests are the precise kinds that boxers are trained to avoid and "unlearn." Those kinds of punches are probably very unnatural for most of them. I'd bet there are tons of random guys who've never set foot in a boxing gym who can outperform professional boxers on those tests. That's how we get results like this:

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It would probably be a very different story if you tested guys throwing standard boxing punches or something.

 

Shavers best punch was his right hand

 

Hit harder than Williams but not liston or shavers

 

Welcome back.

Yeah, like I said the evidence is dubious, and probably for the reasons you point out and more. That said, I would expect haymakers to favor guys who simply had more weight to put behind them. I agree that something is very fishy about those results but I can't put my finger on what.

 

not so much winding up, rather an over commitment on follow through.

Wilder and Baer could also sharpen up and remain almost as, if not equally effective (Comisky, Ortiz II)

 

It worked on Schmeling. That's enough for me.

If you argue that Max was clueless and untalented, then I will respectfully disagree.

 

Are you counting the backhands?

 

He wasn't dangerous, he just threw haymakers:

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He hit him cleanly with the shot that shaked Max and basically ended the fight.

 

Only all their common opponents agreed but what do they know?

 

Nobody's saying he couldn't punch.