Wilder hits about as hard as Fury, nothing more

Wilder is just a better managed version of Seth Mitchell.

 

Just a year previous Wlad was at the top of his game and had spanked the younger, unbeaten Pulev. I was and still am a huge fan of both Klitschkos but Fury had Wlad's number at any point in his career, end of. Vitali would've been an interesting fight but that's neither here nor there.

 

Not saying Wlad wasn't a force, just saying he wasn't in his prime. Given the same circumstances, many Fury lover and Wilder haters would give little to no credit to Wilder for beating a 40 YO champ. If you're honest, you know I'm right.

 

But Wlad hadn't lost for a decade or so, so who is to say when his prime was? I'd say his win over Pulev was a good indication he was in his prime compare to his other opponents.

Remember, Pulev was the big step up everyone had been calling for at the time. Wlad looked on top of his game. If he should be granted any excuse for the Fury loss, maybe complacency holds some weight but let's be real, Fury got in Wlad's head, Wlad underestimated him both mentally and physically and paid the price.

Like I say I was and am still a huge Klitschko fan, I travelled to germany to watch them both on numerous occasions but Fury was all wrong for Wlad.

 

Yeah, because prime fighters in their 40's are a dime a dozen. It happens all the time. So Wlad lost 2 in a row and retired in his prime. Sounds good to me!

 

That would be impressive if Wlad was 30. All I'm saying is, the version of Wlad that Fury beat was not prime. How can anyone argue that point?

 

No they're not a dime a dozen, but Wlad was one of them. He was 39 when he fought Fury. He had looked after himself his whole career and was looking unbeatable. He had just flattened the unbeaten Pulev and outboxed Bryant Jennings, in fact after the Fury fight he almost knocked out the unbeaten up and coming Joshua. If Fury had beaten Wlad early in his career you'd probably say he fought Wlad before his prime. Fury had Wlad's number, and as I said I was rooting for Wlad in the fight and am still a huge fan. I have fight tickets to prove it.

 

Nah, not that night. The Wlad that lost to Fury would have lost to Wilder. The Wlad that lost to AJ probably beats Wilder.

 

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No-you should not post if you are gonna be vicious & make personal attacks that bring down the website & drive people away.
"Schoolmarm", lol! Yes, many people like folks critiquing nasty, gratuitous attacks.
You have no defense for just calling names at people who just disagree with you from a safe distance.

I said nothing like "we cannot discuss results". Did you not see that how effective someone is at ending fights is dependent upon many factors, including power-but you cannot argue that how well you land, in terms of frequency & flushness, volume punching, effective combinations, endurance, defense & many factors effect if you get the KO-or even get to approach that point.

I was not attempting to prove that Wilder hit harder, but it is fine to challenge me on that!
First off, Wilder has KOed virtually everyone...Even Foreman not quite as much at this stage of his career.
And Foreman often bludgeoned men for while before getting the KO...few KO folks consistently with one punch, at leats at a high level.

Now about Wilder & quality...They say this about most every HW-but I personally keep saying that Wilder fights a low level of competition for a champion.
Thing is...Yeah he has limited skills, & he would not have gotten so far fighting the best all the time.
Unfortunately, like an 8 foot tall B-baller, if you have great power-& it helps if you fight relatively weak competition-you can go very far.
Take Shavers-please. Just kidding, I like him personally, but you will likely not dispute that he had limited skills, endurance, chin...But decent enough skills combined with superb power that in a strong boxing era he was World Class.

Look I do not just pick a favorite & back him then slam everyone who might oppose him...
Don't confuse me with those who root for Wilder or take any extreme position due to my ego being caught up with one guy I over-identity with.

We can pick guys that you would agree hit really hard-certainly for there time & weight-like Marciano-& show him endlessly bashing some like LaStarza clean (first fight was really close), & Cockell, a fat ex MW...And they go nowhere.
But given his overall success & KO record, fights like these would be cherry=pcking.

I agree that *when* he sits down on his punches Fury has decent power.
But even with relatively weak competition-how rare is it to have that KO record?
And if we agree Wilder has little else...

I *said* he has to commit to it for top level power.
While it is an overstatement to say that any good boxer will beat him...The very best HWs might well.
Especially now that an effective, aggressive strategy for doing so was just showcased.

Do you not think that Wilder hits really hard?
However protected he is, he is not really fighting "winos from the alley", lol!
And some of his KOs are devastating.
If he really had only fair power, he never could have done as well as he has.

 

That night Wlad threw hardly any punches. I know you will say it's because Fury's skills, but something wasn't right with Wlad. He just didn't act like a champ that wanted to keep his belt. Against AJ, he fought like an ex-champ trying to get back to the top.

As far as my delusion goes, I just don't think it's very wise to over look the speed and power of Wilder. That power keeps him in the fight for the entire 12 rounds. And to say any version of Wlad beats Wilder, I have 2 words for you.........Lamon Brewster.