Can you think of a heavyweight better than Luis Ortiz who never won a title?

Sultan Ibragimov would have worked Ortiz, not to mention all the ones named already.

 

He won the WBO, sorry @pistal47

 

Damn.......

 

Povetkin.

Others that have better wins
Helenius.
Adamek. (HW)
Maybe Arreola.

Ortiz's best wins are Jennings, Scott and Hammer. Thompson was well into his 40s at the time. Already that is an incredibly weak resume for such an ''amazing talent'' of 40 odd years. But Scott had already been KO'd by Wilder and Chisora by then also. Hammer had become an opponent. So those wins are even less than they were worth to some other people. Ortiz has one of the worst resumes of an esteemed fighter EVER SEEN ON EARTH.

 

Tua was nowhere near as skilled as Ortiz is.

 

No Bugner was pretty basic and didn`t have Ortiz`s power.

 

Tex Cobb

 

Shavers didn`t have any skill.

 

Just a tough face first brawler.

 

Ike Ibeabuchi

 

Bugner had more heart than Ortiz ever will
You really rate Ortiz i know but for me, he is pretty basic

He wasn't even a big deal in the amateurs
He has been packaged to be a monster very well by promoters

 

?????

does wilder? They both came within a second of stopping holmes an fury.

What’s the rules of this daft thread then? If chinning the champ and him getting up on noodle legs at 9 Doesn’t count then what

 

Apparently some unknown Croat called hrgovic should qualify according to some posters

 

Ortiz doesn't have a single high level win on his record and lost twice to a guy who likewise had none on his. Guy needs to get past at least one good name before being proclaimed the Jimmy White of heavyweight boxing. He is thoroughly unproven!

 

Wilder is better at setting up his right hand than Shavers was, his counter jab was a problem for Fury in their first bout, Fury would have boxed Shavers ears off.