Why did Floyd use USADA and not VADA?

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  1. Loudon

    Loudon Loyal Member Full Member

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    BS.

    I know you haven’t read them.

    Otherwise you wouldn’t be making stupid statements.

    Go and read them and then come back.
     
  2. African Cobra

    African Cobra The Right Honourable Lord President of the Council Full Member

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    There was nothing to notify them about as he did not fail the test.
     
  3. African Cobra

    African Cobra The Right Honourable Lord President of the Council Full Member

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    What tests did he fail and what performance enhancing drugs were in his system? If there were none case closed!
     
  4. Loudon

    Loudon Loyal Member Full Member

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    Stop being silly.

    IV’s are banned by WADA because they’re known masking agents.

    Although saline and vitamins aren’t prohibited, the AMOUNTS are.

    USADA were legally obligated to report the incident immediately to the NSAC.

    They didn’t.

    An IV of that magnitude is legally classed as a medical emergency, which should have resulted in the admittance to a hospital.

    No doctor was present, and he didn’t go to hospital.

    The NSAC had absolutely no knowledge of the incident until THREE WEEKS AFTER THE FIGHT.

    USADA also drew up a contract, stating that if anyone had any prohibited substances, they could apply for a retroactive TUE.

    Hello!

    Who would add a clause of that nature to a contract?

    We don’t need to hire Columbo here.

    You don’t have to be a rocket scientist to figure all of this out.

    The whole thing stinks.

    Keep on burying your head in the sand and hiding behind your ‘But he didn’t fail a test’ statement.

    That statement is WORTHLESS.
     
  5. Loudon

    Loudon Loyal Member Full Member

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    It doesn’t work like that, genius.

    READ THE LINKS.
     
  6. African Cobra

    African Cobra The Right Honourable Lord President of the Council Full Member

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    You are obviously an amateur detective. Tom Hauser who wrote broke this story is a friend of mine but I don’t agree with it. Like I said all along he did not fail any test nor were there any banned substances in his system and neither USADA or NSAC felt anything was wrong. I would rather rely on them than amateur detectives. Saline is perfectly legal and used to treat injuries which those in the know Floyd had in training. Have you seen the contract with that clause? No you have not so please stop the BS.
     
  7. African Cobra

    African Cobra The Right Honourable Lord President of the Council Full Member

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    Loudon the fact you read something does not mean it’s true! Thanks for calling me a genius but I am just an educated man, experienced professional with a brain.
     
  8. Pakkuman

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    Damn, dude. You're an unprecedented level of stupid. A truly special case.
     
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  9. Loudon

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    The only person spouting BS is YOU!

    Thomas Hauser is a friend of yours?

    Ha!

    Really?

    I’m not buying it. Because if you were, you’d have at least have given him the courtesy of reading his articles. And if you objectively read his articles, then you would not be asking the questions that you have.

    You don’t have to agree with Tom’s opinion. That’s fine. But you can not argue against the FACTS that he’s documented.

    Opinions and facts are 2 different things entirely.

    I don’t have to be an amateur detective.

    Most of what he has written is factual.

    There’s even links to the actual fight contracts.

    These are the facts:


    IV’s are banned by WADA.

    The amounts that Floyd had were illegal.

    USADA did not notify the NSAC, despite the fact that they were legally obligated to do so.

    Floyd did not call a doctor.

    Floyd did not go to a hospital.

    Floyd’s team also didn’t notify the NSAC.

    Floyd applied for a retroactive TUE, over 2 weeks after the fight.

    Bob Bennett had no idea of the incident.


    Those are the facts, which have nothing to do with an opinion.

    Now if you can’t see anything wrong with the above, then you are completely deluded.

    Facts are facts.

    You can’t dispute a fact.


    Here’s some more FACTS:


    USADA have only ever caught ONE fighter.

    They don’t do CIR tests.

    They don’t always test the B samples.

    They do not issue comprehensive results, only brief summaries of them.

    They do not do all year testing.

    They allow for unscrupulous things to be added to their contracts.


    So tell me what you don’t agree with?

    It doesn’t matter if you don’t agree with Tom Hauser’s opinion.

    Those FACTS reek of corruption and incompetence, which cannot be refuted.


    Why do you keep saying the same dumb things over and over?

    You’ve said:

    Right. But IV’s are known masking agents and the volume of what he had was ILLEGAL.

    Both of those things completely nullifies you’re statement.

    They didn’t carry out their legal duties.

    Ha!

    The NSAC had ABSOLUTELY NO KNOWLEDGE of the incident.


    Have a word with yourself.
     
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  10. African Cobra

    African Cobra The Right Honourable Lord President of the Council Full Member

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    Stupid is as stupid says. You should know as displayed by your high level of stupidity based on your posts! Others can discuss and debate with intelligence you clearly care not!
     
  11. Loudon

    Loudon Loyal Member Full Member

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    An opinion is up for debate.

    It’s your choice whether you agree with it or not.

    A stone cold fact however, CANNOT be argued or disputed.


    Look at the FACTS.


    If you can’t see anything wrong with the FACTS of this case, then I despair.
     
  12. African Cobra

    African Cobra The Right Honourable Lord President of the Council Full Member

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    He is actually. Only last week we exchanged messages when I complimented him on his books on Vickie La Motta the late gorgeous wife of Jake La Motta one special lady indeed and his biography of the Greatest Muhammed Ali.

    I will let you into another secret I read the article first many years ago when it came out.
     
  13. Loudon

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    I don’t believe that Thomas would have a friend as ignorant.

    But whether you’re telling the truth or not, I don’t care.

    Just look at the FACTS and answer the points.

    Your silly statements hold no weight.

    They’re empty.

    Completely worthless.
     
  14. The Real Lance

    The Real Lance Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Do you have anything to contribute? Or did you just need to board to know you're a whiny *****?
     
  15. The Real Lance

    The Real Lance Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    How about you read the articles and form an opinion based on them? You NEVER add anything other than cheerleading better posters than you...