Why did Floyd use USADA and not VADA?

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  1. African Cobra

    African Cobra The Right Honourable Lord President of the Council Full Member

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    They can’t because they suffer from the condition of being Mayweathered!
     
  2. Pakkuman

    Pakkuman I'm not hot. I'm just BIG. banned Full Member

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    @Olu G. Rotimi

    Holy crap. You're still getting killed in this thread, my son.

    :lol:

    BTW, I destroyed you last week already. If you will recall, you posted this:

    Floyd's all about the funny stuff — ultra low T/E ratios, dodging VADA (firmly established as the gold standard of drug testing by 2015), dodging dirty test penalties, and being discovered with a needle in his arm in his living room.

    The fact that there is ample circumstantial evidence pointing to Floyd as a dirty disgraceful drug cheat and you refuse to acknowledge any of it means you're biased.

    You lose. Same story. Every single time.

    It's okay, my son. You're seen as a beta cuck here, but it's just an internet forum.

    :deal:
     
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  3. African Cobra

    African Cobra The Right Honourable Lord President of the Council Full Member

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    There we go again! You have never owned anyone in your life son. After all slavery ended a long time ago. I have no issues with my manhood or sexuality though it appears you do. Don’t worry there is help available for you. From what I remember it was your hero Pacquiao the good senator from Saragani province who initially for years refused drug testing for blood because he was afraid of needles. Why was he afraid of needles in that period? Says it all really. In the Money Team we are proud to be pioneers in the sport of boxing for comprehensive blood and urine drugs tests. It’s because we are innovators and this is part of an outstanding legacy of achievement of Floyd Mayweather TBE the best fighter of his era maybe just maybe the best ever certainly in the discussion with the likes of Ali, Duran, Charley Burley, Sugar Ray Robinson, Salvador Sanchez, Pernell Whitaker, Benny Leonard, Sugar Ray Leonard, Tommy, Marvelous Marvin, JCC Snr and Azumah.
     
  4. Pakkuman

    Pakkuman I'm not hot. I'm just BIG. banned Full Member

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    Pac has passed every single blood and urine test he's ever taken. Pac never had ultra low T/E ratios. Pac never used illegal IV fluids. Pac was never granted a TUE 3 weeks after a fight.

    Floyd is a disgraceful drug cheat.

    Apologies, my son! You were just born to lose. You keep losing. You should go pro as a loser.

    :lol:
     
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  5. African Cobra

    African Cobra The Right Honourable Lord President of the Council Full Member

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    Sorry son I never said Pacquiao had failed a drugs test or blood test. I said he refused to take blood tests when first requested in 2009 claiming he was scared of needles! Some drew appropriate conclusions. Why did he refuse? Was he really scared of needles? Why did his KO Ratio disappear at the higher weights once drug testing became the norm.

    We know who is disgraceful Pakku boy. Also what some of you fail to recognize is that it’s possible to be a fan of Floyd and still like Pacquiao as a fighter. God knows I have supported him many times and hope to again before his time is done.
     
  6. Pakkuman

    Pakkuman I'm not hot. I'm just BIG. banned Full Member

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    Sorry, my son.

    Pac ain't ever pumped himself full of illegal IV fluids in his living room. Pac never ducked VADA or rejected dirty drug test penalties. Like I said, wipe Floyd's jizz from your eyes.

    :deal:
     
  7. African Cobra

    African Cobra The Right Honourable Lord President of the Council Full Member

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    Never said he did son. Just saying he refused blood drug testing with needles! Why?
     
  8. Loudon

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    The IV was illegal by WADA, and the amount was also illegal and classed as a medical emergency, which should have reported and which should have resulted in hospital care.

    Why do you keep closing your eyes to these facts?
     
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  9. Loudon

    Loudon Loyal Member Full Member

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    You keep saying this.

    Once again, Thomas Hauser’s opinion on the subject is a completely different thing to the facts that he has documented.

    Please explain to me how and why you don’t agree with his documented facts?

    You’re just deluding yourself.

    You know yourself that he wasn’t severely dehydrated.

    He hadn’t even done anything to be dehydrated, let alone to the point where he’d have needed an emergency IV.
     
  10. African Cobra

    African Cobra The Right Honourable Lord President of the Council Full Member

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    We don’t need to keep going round in circles. My position is clear. You have your position. So we might as well leave it at that. You certainly cannot change my mind and I have no desire to change yours. Thanks Loudon enjoyed the debate. Over and out on this thread.
     
  11. Loudon

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    USADA!

    You can’t get anything right.

    USADA’s reputation to took a huge hit, and they stopped testing fighters at that point.

    There’s commissions that don’t want them to test fighters, due to incompetence and clear signs of corruption.

    Read the links.
     
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  12. Loudon

    Loudon Loyal Member Full Member

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    You can’t educate anybody on anything.

    You cannot hammer me with TWO facts, which go hand in hand, with FOURTEEN others which you have ignored.

    Saline and vitamins aren’t banned. That is correct. But the method and volume ARE.

    I’ve lost all respect for you as a poster.

    You’ve acted like a small child all throughout the thread.

    You’re a joke.
     
  13. Loudon

    Loudon Loyal Member Full Member

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    Well, look at the situation objectively, before looking at the facts.

    He was 3 pounds out at the 30 day point.

    He’s a gym rat who walks around just above his fight weight.

    He didn’t have to dehydrate to make weight.

    He’d hardly trained in the final week.

    Everything had been done and he was winding down.

    If he’d have been dehydrated, he’d have had a drink.

    He could NOT have been severely dehydrated as he hadn’t done anything to be severely dehydrated. But if he had’ve been severely dehydrated, again, he’d have had oral fluids.

    He would not have had an IV of that magnitude which is illegal.

    Now, go and look at Hauser’s facts from his article, which you keep pretending you have read.

    You know what went down.
     
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  14. Loudon

    Loudon Loyal Member Full Member

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    Wow.

    Just when I thought you couldn’t reach any lower, you throw this at me.

    So:

    You’re going to ignore every FACT that I’ve listed, before calling me a made up word?

    Ha!

    Really?

    Hey, I hope you have a great time at your 8th birthday party.

    Don’t eat too much ice cream.
     
  15. Loudon

    Loudon Loyal Member Full Member

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    The problem you’ve set me, is that I thought I was debating a fellow boxing fan.

    I made a mistake.

    It turns out that I’ve been debating a small child instead who makes up phrases for his hero.