Keith Thurmans game plan vs Pacquiao

He assumed foolishly assumed that he’d be able to run over PAC due to PAC’s age. It was extremely satisfying watching PAC drop him.

Reminds me of Jessie Vargas, who also assumed that he’d just easily land a right hand and knock PAC 9”out until PAC dropped him like a sack of potatoes.

 

Every headline in the World read something like this...…...

https://ftw.usatoday.com/2015/05/ma...ete-waste-of-time-money-boxing-is-dead-payout

 

When boxing resumes, I hope the fight game is so starved for puglistic action and drama that refs start deducting points for excessive and unnecessary clinching. Floyd would have been docked 3-4 points if refs actually upheld the Queensbury rules.



Floyd literally dove at Pac's legs in one round.

 

What wasn't a waste is the 1-0 record pbf has over pac and how it helped him win fighter of the decade. Btw it wasn't pbfs job to make the fight "exciting" he fought his fight. That was pac's who couldn't fight his and got shut down blame him.

 

A lot of fighters are of the thinking that because Marquez did it, so can they...…….
Even Floyd Mayweather thought that, but when faced with Pacquiao in the ring he found out pretty quick

It was embarrassing to see Floyd in the biggest stage actually do an imitation of John Ruiz.
I'm not kidding, in the US people were asking their PPV provider for their money back.

 

It was an atrocious display of cowardice. His own dad admonished him after the 7th round for fighting scared.

 

How can a smaller fighter break from a stronghold the bigger fighter has on him?

That's why there are rules against excessive holding, Mayweather should have at least been warned and threatened to have points deducted but his friend the referee wouldn't do it.

 

You're an excuse maker i see. Pbf outworked pac outlanded pac and limited pac to a career low output. It was easy work and he didnt have to get out of 1st gear to do it. Ffs Maidana gave pbf a harder fight than pac did.

 

I totally feel Mayweather Sr., like myself I was expecting Mayweather jr. to have settled in after a few rounds of study and begin to sharpshoot Pacquiao in a more convincing fashion than even Juan Manuel Marquez had done, but instead of side stepping to Pacquiao's right as Marquez had done countless times to unleach right hands everytime Pacquiao got within punching distance of him, Mayweather would step forward so that he could get Pacquiao into a clinch.
I felt embarrassed for Floyd. He's a better fighter than what he showed against Pacquiao but on that night against Pacquiao he fought more like he was afraid that a clean shot by Pacquiao would hurt him.
That and I think he realized that Pacqiuao was faster than he was and so he wasn't going to take any chances and play it as safe as he possibly could.
The major problem with that mindset was the anticipation and Magnitude of the fight and the viewers feeling like they were scammed afterward.

Mayweather Sr. preached for years that Jr. would embarrass Pacquiao and of course he was disappointed his son didn't rise to the occasion of the magnitude of the matchup itself.

 

Maidana is a much bigger dude than Pacquiao who can break from the clutches of Mayweather's grip and get down and dirty with his head, elbows, and shoulders.
That's one of the things that's so impressive about Manny Pacquiao, he doesn't have to fight dirty outside the rules to beat fighters.

Be sensible PimpC, you and every Mayweather fanboy must have felt letdown that Mayweather had to resort to dirty tactics to keep Pacquiao at bay, because I'm pretty sure you thought like me that Mayweather would sharpshoot and make Pacquiao look silly.
Just wasn't the case, we all know Mayweather Sr. wasn't pleased with the performance.

 

You see that's what so great about being a pbf fan divac, you don't have to make excuses or what if scenarios because he never lost and i love it!

man it has to suck to be a pbf hater like you schooled guys and fighters you loved like nothing talked **** got paid never knocked down in the ring or humbled in the ring and retired on top. Hell if i was a pbf hater I'd be mad and bitter like you to.

 

Faster than pbf was??? Lmfao! Are you high? Pbf beat pac to the punch all night long he had the faster reflexes and faster hands and feet in that fight. He without a doubt was the faster fighter that night stop with the lies.

Its more than likely pbf saw that he could neutralize pac's atg offense so easy that he didn't have to go to plan b or c. He shut down pac's offense like no one has it was easy work. He was the ring general and fought his fight. He also hit pac with a clean counter in the 1st round and pac had to make a business decision because he wasnt willing to sell out and take that all night long.

 

There's a difference between speed and quickness, like you said Mayweather beat Pacquiao to the punch, that is quickness. Speed is what happens after that first punch lands. Early on in the fight Mayweather sensed that when he landed the first punch, he couldn't get off another because Pacquiao was already unleaching his and in combination. When Pacquiao gets going in combination, its such a blurr there's not way to stop it unless you're already moving to the side the instant your first punch has landed or you're ready to swivel or duck your waist to his punches.
If you saw the Pacquiao-Marquez fight you saw Marquez constantly moving to his left to make Pacquiao have to reach for him so that he could then time and fire straight right counters at Pacquiao. Whenever Marquez would decide to fire with some power behind his shots, he'd fire and then duck and swivel his hips in defense of Pacquiao's fast combos.
Usually Mayweather would do something similar but to a greater defensive extent, preferring not to put so much on his shots so that his core base is stationed with his shoulder to the opponent to play defense off of that.
Mayweather wasn't able to do that vs Pacquiao because for one, Mayweather's shoulder roll works better against a conventional stance fighter and secondly, Pacquiao handspeed in combination was faster than his was.
The hell with the fans said Mayweather, as he wanted nothing to do with trying to outbox a faster handed fighter and so he commenced his imitation of John Ruiz.
Mayweather took Pacquiao to school allright, but he took him to the Johnny Ruiz school of boxing. Punch grab, punch grab, punch grab.....
I ask you this, why would Mayweather do this if he was faster than Pacquiao?

Nobody not associated with Mayweather went home happy because nobody was entertained washing a bigger man holding the smaller man.
If Mayweather is as good as you say, why couldn't he have outboxed Pacquiao proper without using excessive holding???
You certainly cant say Pacquiao had part in initiating the holding as he has no history of doing such a thing and it was plain to see anyways that Mayweather was stepping forward going for the hold.

You need to re-watch that fight an look for it PimpC. Speed!!!! Pacquiao's speed is what made Mayweather decide, "I need to just grab this guy or he's going to get off on me."

The ref let it go and that's just the way it is, but I think that in neutral circumstances where the ref was impartial, he'd have warned Mayweather of the holding and commenced taking away points if he kept on doing it.

…….and you know what? I think Mayweather would have adjusted and outboxed Pacquiao anyways if the ref had made him stop holding, but it would have meant Mayweather would have had to take some shots because of Pacquiao's speed , but at the end the the fans would have gone home happy with it.
The fans would rather see Mayweather fight, but they would have settled with Mayweather boxing, which he did not deliver on the night.

Grab hold, repeat and rinse, is not boxing!

 

Thurman has to blame himself for his inactive over the past 2 years. He had just one fight before fighting Pacquiao. He took it for granted that he would certainly beat Pacquiao. He got what he deserved.