Michael Moorer vs the Baer Brothers

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  1. InMemoryofJakeLamotta

    InMemoryofJakeLamotta I have defeated the great Seamus Full Member

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    No. It was a real tough era where the fighters had to overcome a lot of obstacles which made them tough.
     
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  2. 70sFan865

    70sFan865 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I don't get the criticism of Buddy Baer. He was huge, strong and durable. Fighters like him always did extremely well in any era.
     
  3. InMemoryofJakeLamotta

    InMemoryofJakeLamotta I have defeated the great Seamus Full Member

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    Right. He likely would be in the top 10 of the HW division today. Who knows, he may have captured a belt?
     
  4. janitor

    janitor VIP Member Full Member

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    Please don't ever compare Micheal Moorer to Joe Louis!

    I get it that Moorer was a damn fine fighter, but who did he actually stop at heavyweight?

    Why would you expect him to be a threat to any heavyweight with an all time chin based upon his power?
     
  5. janitor

    janitor VIP Member Full Member

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    I would have given him a very good chance of holding a belt a few years back, when there were softer belts to target.

    For example I would have him as a strong favorite over Charles Martin.
     
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  6. 70sFan865

    70sFan865 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Max was wildly inconsistent, but he had nice wins over Risko, Schaff, Schmeling, Carnera, Farr and Galento.They weren't terrible at all and some of them were arguably as good as Moorer.
     
  7. Seamus

    Seamus Proud Kulak Full Member

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    You're comparing 5-11, 190 pound hamandeggers who lost over a third of their fights to a 6-2, 220, 78" reach Kronk-engineered, triphammer punching, fast-twitch mad man.... that really doesn't do your case any favors.
     
  8. Pat M

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    I can't tell if these guys just have no concept of boxing skill/technique/athleticism or if there is a racial bias to their argument? I don't understand how anybody can look at video of Michael Moorer in the ring and then compare him to the Baers, Galento, Schmeling, etc.? I hope that it is just ignorance of boxing skills and not racial bias.
     
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  9. janitor

    janitor VIP Member Full Member

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    There is always option C.

    You don't know everything John Snow!
     
  10. George Crowcroft

    George Crowcroft He Who Saw The Deep Full Member

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    And he would lose to a top contender from a better era
     
  11. janitor

    janitor VIP Member Full Member

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    Like Charles Martin say?
     
  12. George Crowcroft

    George Crowcroft He Who Saw The Deep Full Member

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    I meant Moorer specifically, but sure. I don't think Buddy would've survived that shot which iced Washington.

    Your point is poor, though. Martin was never the number 1 contender, and this era isn't better than that one.
     
  13. RockyJim

    RockyJim Boxing Addict Full Member

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    58 fights...51 wins...47 KO's...7 losses...
     
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  14. InMemoryofJakeLamotta

    InMemoryofJakeLamotta I have defeated the great Seamus Full Member

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    Galento was 240 pounds with a deadly left hook, Carnera was 260 pounds at 6'7, Schmeling was a master boxer with a heavy, accurate right hand and Tommy Farr was also a master boxer.
     
  15. InMemoryofJakeLamotta

    InMemoryofJakeLamotta I have defeated the great Seamus Full Member

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    Number one, what does the "M" in Pat M stand for?

    Number two, if you watch film, you'll see clearly that all of the above named fighters were in the class of Michael Moorer.