Old school heavyweights were pretty small

Dude at some point it just doesnt matter anymore, genes are genes. Mass is king in this sport, thats why you separate it weight classes and not in skill, height or age classes.

Even the guys from the old days that were tall never had nearly the mass nowadays heavys have.
The 90 were a defining age in hw boxing when those muscle monsters like bowe, lewis and holyfield started to take over.

compare ali to holyfield, they share a lot of similarity's. Same height comparable amateur career. But holyfield is just 2x as big as ali. ped, training methods and nutrion of course play a big role in that.

 

I know, that's why I like Lewis, Bowe and Wlad to beat him easily.

 

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fuk wlad really took it even a step further. It is shocking what kind of athleticism this guy brings to the scale at 6‘6. this is below 9% bf. Beeing that ripped with this height in a sport that is mainly stamina orientated is insane. Todays top hw just operate on such a ridiculous high level.
Really no disrespect to the old greats but this is just super heavyweight compared to cruiser weight.

 

Ruiz's 270lb is at least 50lb pure taco and snickers. You think Ruiz beats 71 Ali? Silly boy.

 

The OP is nothing more than a troll looking for reactions to his/her ridiculous statements, worse still there’s nothing even remotely amusing, just tiresome and juvenile stupidity.

Don’t waste your time trying to see any real point to her posts, there isn’t any

 

Around 8-10 years ago I used to be in the boxing gyms 3-5 days a week and it wasn’t out of the ordinary to see 168 and 175ers put big heavyweights on theirs backs. Size doesn’t mean squat if the smaller guy can use angles and connect on the big man clean.

At the Fight Factory Medzhid Bektemirov put plenty of big guys on their backs including Wilder and Breazeale when they passed through the fight factory. When I was at Goossen’s gym, which is right up the street from my old Apartment I seen Sakio Bika go toe to toe with Andy Ruiz and he even rocked Ruiz. Ruiz couldn’t put a dent in Sakio.

 

i supose i usually work on the assumption that [of course this is all extremely crude & it happens very slowly rather than in big jumps] that in the postwar period, people getting bigger has every 20-25 yrs or so improved HW standards by about a single notch, e.g.

a mid/late 90s HW contender is maybe about on a par with a 2020 HW gatekeeper;
a mid/late 90s HW gatekeeper is maybe about on a par with a 2020 HW journeyman.

so i suppose a 1970 HW champion might be roughly on a par with a 2020 HW gatekeeper? maybe a 2020 HW contender if we were talking a really good 1970 champion [not all champions are equal of course, e.g. C Martin isn't on a par with etc]?

 

Ok so first of. Of course can a lhw or middle weight easily defeat a hw if he is way better then him.
The thing is that as a pro you just start reaching a sealing.
If you are 5‘8 and train 5 times a week for 5 years and you fight a 6‘1 guy who trains 2 or 1 time for 1 year you will beat him. But as soon as the guy starts training in the same frequency as you or even slightly less and starts reaching a same level as you, you will have to be 2 as good, efficient and fast to beat the other guy.
Pefect example romanov wilder. When wilder faced him he was 3 years into boxing and got beaten, by now i dont think that romanov would have even the slightest chance and its not cause wilder is twice as good as him, he just reached a comparable level but plus the size difference it is impossible for romanov to other come that.

if the bika story is true then why didnt he become a heavyweight, he would have made more money out of that i guess.

 

I can tell you this, guys that participate in active amateur fights or at least sparred will agree that size matters much more then a lot of those self proclaimed experts here think.
I sparred a 6‘6 260 lbs pound guy that was on roids. I would love to tell you that he had excellent footwork a beautiful smooth jab and was a tactical genius, but that would be simply a lie. The guy was plain and stiff could only throw very basic combos and he still just mauled me and i can deal with guys that are little bit bigger then me but that was just to much.